What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
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What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
So I have a 1980 Honda CM200t. When I bought it, it was running. When I got it home, it was not.
So! I drained the gas, got new spark plugs, and it fired right up! Except it would only work with the choke open. When I would close the choke, the bike would die. Even after it was warmed up for 15 minutes, it still would only run with the choke open. So I left it over night, it got dark.
The next morning I was going to adjust the idle screw, but it wouldn't start. . . again.
So I removed the carb and took it in to a bike shop and they cleaned it all out for me. I brought it home, re-installed it, and it still won't start.
The bike has lots of compression, strong spark, and fuel IS getting to the carb.
Will I need a SECOND new set of plugs since the old(new) ones fouled??
Any help would be so great!! Also, I just thought of something while i was writing this. Is it possible to put the slide in backwards in the carb?? Like 180 degrees backwards kind of thing??
So! I drained the gas, got new spark plugs, and it fired right up! Except it would only work with the choke open. When I would close the choke, the bike would die. Even after it was warmed up for 15 minutes, it still would only run with the choke open. So I left it over night, it got dark.
The next morning I was going to adjust the idle screw, but it wouldn't start. . . again.
So I removed the carb and took it in to a bike shop and they cleaned it all out for me. I brought it home, re-installed it, and it still won't start.
The bike has lots of compression, strong spark, and fuel IS getting to the carb.
Will I need a SECOND new set of plugs since the old(new) ones fouled??
Any help would be so great!! Also, I just thought of something while i was writing this. Is it possible to put the slide in backwards in the carb?? Like 180 degrees backwards kind of thing??
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Re: What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
And Hello!!! I'm new here! I'm from Canada. I've got two bikes now, neither of them are running. The other bike is a big project I'm not quite ready to tackle! I'm looking forward to using this forums resources and if possible, adding some of my own input! Thanks!!
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Re: What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
Sounds to me like the pilot jet was plugged, so when you kept it on choke it probably fouled out the plugs. If you put in a new set of plugs, let it warm up for about a minute or two, then turn the choke back off.
And yes I vote put in a new set of plugs.
And yes I vote put in a new set of plugs.
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Re: What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
Ya I figured I'd have to get new plugs to replace my 28 minute old plugs!! It's all good. I'll get them in the am, and see what happens.Wrider wrote:Sounds to me like the pilot jet was plugged, so when you kept it on choke it probably fouled out the plugs. If you put in a new set of plugs, let it warm up for about a minute or two, then turn the choke back off.
And yes I vote put in a new set of plugs.
Thanks!!
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Re: What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
Ascot VT500...very cool bike. Do you have a manual for your bike?
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Re: What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
I have a manual for the Ascot, but not the Twinstar. And thanks!! It's pretty sweet.
Edit: what about the slide? Will it go in both ways? I know it will only work one way, but will it fit in both ways?
Edit: what about the slide? Will it go in both ways? I know it will only work one way, but will it fit in both ways?
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Re: What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
No it won't, it only goes in the one way,
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Re: What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
Well, just give myself the best odds possible, I spent the $8 bucks and just got new plugs.
But I STILL don't know if the carb clean was successful, because now I have no spark!!!??? Lol WHAT is going on???
The battery was a little low, so I put it on the charger for a few hours, hopefully that'll help. But if not, has this happened to anyone? Spark one day, but not the next?
Edit: Now it's running. I think it was the battery, im not sure how though, either way its running. It's back to the semi-original issue though. It only runs with the choke on. I tried adjusting the idle, no luck. I turned the idle up and it rev'd way higher, but still died when I closed the choke.
Any suggestions on where to go next?? I'd LOVE to get out and ride!!
But I STILL don't know if the carb clean was successful, because now I have no spark!!!??? Lol WHAT is going on???
The battery was a little low, so I put it on the charger for a few hours, hopefully that'll help. But if not, has this happened to anyone? Spark one day, but not the next?
Edit: Now it's running. I think it was the battery, im not sure how though, either way its running. It's back to the semi-original issue though. It only runs with the choke on. I tried adjusting the idle, no luck. I turned the idle up and it rev'd way higher, but still died when I closed the choke.
Any suggestions on where to go next?? I'd LOVE to get out and ride!!
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Re: What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
I sprayed a little Quick start where ever I thought maybe there might be an air leak. No luck.
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Re: What is the deal?? It WAS running!! Not now though. . .
Have you balanced the carbs? Sounds like that could be your biggest problem at this point.
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