question about starting/stopping

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los8 · #1 Unread post by **los8** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:07 pm

I am some time from getting my bike or even taking the MSF course. Saving money... Anyway I have a question on my mind. I have been wondering what is the proper technique when starting and stopping on an up/down hill incline? Just been curious to find out, thanks in advance

stock28 · #2 Unread post by **stock28** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:22 pm

It just involves proper clutch, brake, and throttle control. You would understand it much better after taking the class and spending some time on a bike. Not much else I can tell you at this point that won't be covered in the MSF.

Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:30 pm

Same as with a manual car. Cept on a bike i've found using the rear brake (right foot) is easier than the front brake (right hand). Pull in clutch (you should already be in 1st gear) and apply brakes until stopped. use left foot to steady yourself, and the right foot to apply brake. give it a little gas and slowly release the clutch. As you release the clutch, release the rear brake as you get into the friction zone. It takes practice though and can be tricky to pull off. Find a hill somewhere and practice (once you get the bike). And my reason behind using the rear brake is so A) better throttle control (right hand is free) and B) you don't accidently burn out, release the front brake and 12 o'clock your bike.

los8 · #4 Unread post by **los8** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:08 am

thats kind what I was thinking. I drive a manual car so I know about using the handbrake when on a hill. I figured you would use the rear brake so throttle control was better.

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:46 am

los8 wrote:thats kind what I was thinking. I drive a manual car so I know about using the handbrake when on a hill. I figured you would use the rear brake so throttle control was better.

Er, in a car i use the normal brake for hill stops.

wally hooker · Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:50 am

GeoffXR200R wrote: use left foot to steady yourself, and the right foot to apply brake. give it a little gas and slowly release the clutch. As you release the clutch, release the rear brake as you get into the friction zone. It takes practice though and can be tricky to pull off. Find a hill somewhere and practice.

Exactly. The rear brake is the key. As soon as you get you bike, find a not-too-steep hill where there is no or limited traffic. I found a cemetery, oddly enough, and practiced this over and over. After a while, it becomes easy. But you don't want your first time starting on a hill in real traffic!

Robkhb · #7 Unread post by **Robkhb** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:36 am

Personally I do like I am in a stick shift car, and just feather the clutch staying somewhere in the friction zone to prevent the bike from rolling back...

#8 Unread post by **Kal** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:39 am

I actually had a hillstart on my CBT! Fortuantly theres an instructor on hand in radio contact.

I do the same s I do on the flat - cover the rear brake adjusting the revs and clutch until I get that slight lift of the front that tells me she is good to go - although on an up hill start I tend to give it a few more revs...

Nibblet99 · Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:09 am

Kal wrote:although on an up hill start I tend to give it a few more revs...

Err... on a 125cc I now give it all of the revs on all of the starts

bigswifty · Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:39 am

and just feather the clutch staying somewhere in the friction zone to prevent the bike from rolling back...

the clutch is not a brake! It will not last long when used as one...