Honda CBR600RR

[iwannadie]

I don't want to buy a pos to ride for a month then sell it and buy a better bike that suits me more.

No offense dude, but until you get some experience under your belt, you have no idea what bike suits you the most.

You DO have an idea of what bike you'd like to BE SEEN on . Hey that's great. The "pos" bike allows you to learn how to ride your dream bike better. If you drop that dream bike, you'll realize something :

"Holy helll! I could have bought a beater and learned how to properly ride it, for the cost of replacing these trashed plastics!"



But what do we know anyway ...

not to say anything about the original poster because i dont know them. But i think most new riders see the bike and decide thats the bike for them based on the plastics. i mean really you take the plastics off any sports bike and they will all look pretty similar and ugly.

people dont get that RR does mean race replica and not just in the visual sense.

if your worried about what the bike looks like for your first bike your starting off on the wrong foot no question. so what if your bike looks crappy and people say it sucks, are you out to impress them or ride for yourself? as other have said without having ever rode you cant possible know what bike best suites you. other than you like the visuals which means no thing when it comes time to riding it.

also dont think because you put frame sliders on it everything will be safe. i hear that alot too now days from new riders.

[300zxer]

not to say anything about the original poster because i dont know them. But i think most new riders see the bike and decide thats the bike for them based on the plastics. i mean really you take the plastics off any sports bike and they will all look pretty similar and ugly.

people dont get that RR does mean race replica and not just in the visual sense.

if your worried about what the bike looks like for your first bike your starting off on the wrong foot no question. so what if your bike looks crappy and people say it sucks, are you out to impress them or ride for yourself? as other have said without having ever rode you cant possible know what bike best suites you. other than you like the visuals which means no thing when it comes time to riding it.

also dont think because you put frame sliders on it everything will be safe. i hear that alot too now days from new riders.

Not trying to start anything... Im just trying to gain knowledge.

I don't want to buy a race replica bike... just an 8 year old crotch rocket.. Im not talking about financing a brand new RR for my first bike.[/quote]

[kmd107]

I have been debating this issue myself over the past couple weeks as to what bike I want to get for my first bike. I have been looking at a Honda F4i and also a Ninja 250. Of course I really want the F4i but know the smart move is to get the Ninja. I seem to go back and forth daily as to what one I am going to get. The more I read here though the more I think I will be getting the Ninja. Thanks everyone for all the advice. Well gotta go to my MSF class (2 more to go).

[shane-o]

cant believe a discussion is still ongoing about whether RR bikes are great for beginners


go out, buy your RR, but, do us a favour, if your alive to tell the tale, please come back and share your stories of pain and misery, so as the others will take head of the uber good sense being shared on this topic.



I worked in intensive care for many years, which housed the states finest trauma unit. Id see brainless num nut wankers come in in fairly regular supply who had decided to ride out side their skill set for a second, and I can tell ya one immunable truth "although motorcycle riding is by far one of the finest experiances you can ever have, it is also one of the most dangerous" do not tip the scales in the favour of serious injury or death, just for show.

[swatter555]

I dont think anyone is saying a RR is good to learn on. If the question is whether getting a CBR600 is a thing for a newb to do, 95% of the people here say it isnt. Im one of them. Learning how to ride can be tricky and dangerous, but lets not go overboard. I think the only point of contention was the speed restrictor.


300zxer-

8 year old sportbikes can still have a load of hp. If you want to get an old sportbike or a new one for that matter, go ahead. We live in a country that values freedom over common sense. Not saying you dont have common sense, its just you cant do that in alot of industrialized countries. Not saying that is good or bad. The point is, it is your responsibility to stay safe. If you get a 105hp RR to learn on, you are seriously raising the chance to get hurt. If you can accept those risks, then go right ahead.

Learning is tricky, dont underestimate the risks.

[bikeguy joe]

We're talking about biking, we're talking about flying, now I'll add my two cents....

I also fly R/C planes.

It is very common for a newb to come into the sport/hobby and one of the first thing they do is see someone flying a P-51 fighter or a hot aerobatic plane and say "Hey, I want one of those!" Then everyone will rant and rave (I mean this in a positive way) against flying something like that as a "first plane" and say "get an instructor and a trainer plane and so on.....the newb will think to himself "I don't wanna fly one of theose dorky trainer planes" and go out with all the good advice in his head and buy a P-51 or aerobatic plane anyway and find a "safe field" somewhere and go about "teaching himself to fly".

About 5 seconds into the first flight, (if he's lucky) he'll realize he should have listened to all the "old cronies" he asked advice from and then go out and pick up 500 dollars worth of toothpicks and go home and usually never fly again.

In the motorcycle world this scenario repeats itself often, but the "500 dollar worth of toothpicks" is usually 5000 dollars worth of bike, and the reason the biker never bikes again is because he's eating through a tube in his side or in a fancy pine box 6 feet under the ground.

Know what I'm sayin' Vern?

[300zxer]

kmd107, swatter555 and
bikeguy joe

I agree with your posts 100% I thought about it awhile today, and I think Kmd's plan is the best. A ninja 250R for a couple of months to gain some experience on then upgrade to a bike I can truly apprieciate and ride with confidence.

sorry to hijack this thread btw

[ronboskz650sr]

If you like Honda...I can highly recommend the 1987-90ish cbr600 hurricane. They are on ebay all the time. They are a bit powerful for a beginner, but with stock gearing...not too bad. For what you pay for a used one, you can dumb it down a little with a smaller sprocket in the back and even a larger one in the front, to get rid the neck-snapping effect. They have 85-92 crank HP, so they will still move out as you learn. My son's had it the other way around...1 tooth down in front, and two up in the rear. It is a little twitchy, and would definitely be a handful for a beginner, but a stock one would probably be okay. Chains and sprockets are cheaper than whole bikes, and you can really change the feel of the bike this way. As for handling...very stable yet quick to turn in when you want to. The brakes are much less powerful than the new ones...no problems there.

[bikeguy joe]

300- Good plan. I think that after a "couple months" you may find that the 250 will still suit you. Nothing wrong with learning for a couple of years even.....I know the Ninja 250 seems bit small, I guarantee you can scare the crap outta yourself-even with a 125!

Hell, if there was a 250-600 Ninja When I was starting out, I probably wouldn't be here to post! (not saying everyone would ride one in an irresponsible way, but I know I would have.)

[daught]

Well I am starting on a 91 CBR 600. I cant say I chose the bike, the bike chose me. It was forgotten in a garage for a few years. It was offered to me for $800 with full equipment. Too good of a deal to miss. I have some experience riding mopeds. I used to drive a stella (http://www.mopedarmy.com/photos/brand/25/4983/) when I was 12. I know this is totally different. I have no problem holding it and driving it in first gear. I never went higher yet. I took all plstics off but on top of that I am very good at fixing fiberglass. My dad did not drive a bike in 20 years and he jumped on it and went ripping. He said it is killer but not imposible. Hell I bet many beginer accident are result of showofs. Sell it and buy a beginer bike? Hell no i just cant sell it after i put so much time in it to get it runing again.