Riding without a license

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niterider · Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:57 am

Yes the permite is to allow you to learn to ride before you are of age to get licensed. Our ristrictions are that you need a moto licensed rider of certian age, not sure of age, in sight. He or she could be in a car or standing near by, as long as they are in sight.

Vit0r · #12 Unread post by **Vit0r** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:51 pm

"Here in Alberta, the fine was $25 until last year. Now it's a couple of grand. "

Say WHAAA???

How do they go from 25 measly bucks to a couple of grand? Please tell me that a "grand" in Canada is slang for a hundred. Cuz round here a grand = a g = a thousand. That's ludacris.

#13 Unread post by **Sev** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:59 pm

It's a couple thousand, and riding around here without a permit essentially means riding around untrained and uninsured. Which means basically if they mess up (and it's likely they will having no training) that the other people who get hurt or have their property damage they are responsible for it.

So spend $600 a year on insurance or pay $25 if you get pulled over without the insurance. That means you could get pulled over 24 times and break even. Assuming no accidents... But that puts everyone else in trouble.

So if it's a couple thousand for no insurance then you're boned.

BuzZz shouldn't have been able to ride like that

Vit0r · #14 Unread post by **Vit0r** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:39 pm

Hmm...they wisened up.

Anyone know how it is here in the States?

Icarus · #15 Unread post by **Icarus** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:58 am

Here in CA it's about a $300 ticket for no insurance

floatsmyboat · Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:38 pm

I was able to insure my bike without a Motorcycle endorsment. How else can a person get some time on the bike so you can pass the riding test. Here in Michigan when you get your permit, you must have a licsensed motorcycle rider within visual distance of you, either in a car or on a bike. Needless to say, I never did unless riding with some of my buddies. Didn't have any problems however, and it was only a couple of weeks till I took my test anyway.

Greg O.

Mustang · #17 Unread post by **Mustang** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:43 am

We were told in MSF that if you don't have the motorcycle endorsement on your license the state of Florida allows the police to confiscate your bike. That really made the guy who was riding his newly purchased road kingto class sit up and take notice!!!

We asked if the police exercise that right and the answer simply was that he can.

That would make me think twice (aside from all the commonsense stuff of course)

I've mentioned this casually to other riders, some just say wow.....others start to look a little worried....makes you wonder.

I seem to think I had to prove I could legally ride before I could get my insurance though.....

CajunBass · Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:15 am

In Virginia, a "Motorcycle Learners permit" allows you to ride during daylight when accompanied by a liscened motorcycle rider. The rule says that person may be in a "vehicle", not necessarly on a bike. (I have yet to figure out exactly what they are supposed to do. Seems about like having your flight instructor fly alongside you in another plane.)

Since I didn't know but one other person in my area who had a motorcycle of any kind, and he didn't have a license either, despite having been riding for years, I went ahead and rode mine around in the somewhat rural area I live in. I never got stopped, but I only saw a couple of police cars during that time. I didn't have any trouble with insurance or registration either,

When it came time to take my test a new worry popped up. How do I get the bike to the testing area? I didn't have a license. I didn't know anyone who did. I didn't have a trailer, or know anyone who did. (I'm new in this area, and don't know many people yet.) Suppose they ask me at the testing center "How did you get your bike here?" Uhhhhhhh And if they don't ask me that, and I fail the test, are they going to ask "How do you plan to get your bike home?" Uhhhhhhhh

They didn't ask either question.

floatsmyboat · Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:21 pm

I know a guy in Illinois (the s in Illinois is silent) who rode his bike to the testing center. They would not let him take his test. Seems stupid doesn't it. The next time he stopped half a block away, let the bike cool, then pushed it in. They let him take the test this time. I sure am glad our government is here to take care of us craddle to grave.

Greg O.