"Racing" Training - Is there such a thing?

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m4lu6 · #1 Unread post by **m4lu6** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:12 am

Last weekend as I sat at the bar sipping my pepsicola(tm), I was engaged in a conversation by a rather drunk "former" motorcyclist. He went on and on for an interminable period of time describing how many bikes he's gone through, Ducati, Triumph, Guzi, Honda, etc etc, and how many spectactular crashes he had.

My bullschnott detectors were in full effect, but were piqued when he mentioned something about a "motorcycle racing course" he had taken in Daytona Beach, Florida. He described a racing-track based course at which he was instructed on the finer arts of all-things "speed". He mentioned to me that aside from learning the basics of racing, he was introduced to some more aggressive and advanced riding styles that outstripped any of the MSF "experienced" riding course material and tactics.

Given my propensity toward learning as much as I can, I ask this forum:

Is there such a course, and where might I find it? My initial searches for this type of school on Google have borne no fruit , and none of my more-experienced motorcyclist friends have heard of such a school.

#2 Unread post by **9000white** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:21 am

you can learn how to have spectacular crashes without going to school.

CajunBass · #3 Unread post by **CajunBass** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:23 am

A quick AOL search for "motorcycle racing schools" came up with 437,000 entries. Everything from beginning to full superbike training. I didn't see one at Daytona, but there are race car training facilities all over the country, and probably the world. No reason to think there wouldn't be some for motorcycles.

Here's a link to one, picked at random. I know nothing more about it than what you read on their website.

http://www.penguinracing.com/

Good luck.

#4 Unread post by **Sev** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:18 am

Yeah, there are a lot of places that offer track days just to start with where anyone can show up and race with someon of similar skill. There are people onhand to offer adivce and keep things relatively safe.

The Dec issue of last years motorcyclist had a bunch of "gift ideas for bikers." Which included at least 3 different race training courses. I'll try to dig it out of my closet.

The most expensive one (that I recall the best) was several thousand dollars for 2 days, and it was basically one on one instruction with a guy following you with a videocamera to show what you were doing wrong and what you were doing right. Everything was supplied and some of the stuff they claimed to teach just blew my mind.

sapaul · #5 Unread post by **sapaul** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:00 am

Sevulturus wrote:Yeah, there are a lot of places that offer track days just to start with where anyone can show up and race with someon of similar skill. There are people onhand to offer adivce and keep things relatively safe.

The Dec issue of last years motorcyclist had a bunch of "gift ideas for bikers." Which included at least 3 different race training courses. I'll try to dig it out of my closet.

The most expensive one (that I recall the best) was several thousand dollars for 2 days, and it was basically one on one instruction with a guy following you with a videocamera to show what you were doing wrong and what you were doing right. Everything was supplied and some of the stuff they claimed to teach just blew my mind.

That sound's like Keith Code's California school. They are very expensive. They travel around the world. When they came to Phakisa in SA, I could not afford to attend.

ronboskz650sr · Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:31 am

Maybe he didn't do so great in the school, or maybe he really raced alot. Or, maybe he tried to duplicate the track on the street...that can lead to spectacular crashes, when done properly.

#7 Unread post by **cb360** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:24 am

I'm with 9000white - I can go fast and crash without any training whatsoever. Just kiddding - I bet it would be a blast for the racing folks out there, but I personally just like riding. Once I get around 70 I don't much want to go any faster. I try to plany my days so that I don't need to rush.

#8 Unread post by **Sev** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:08 am

Like CB360 said, motorcycles were meant to be enjoyed. And mine was definately designed to take the long way to any particular destination... unless the short way has more twisties.