corners, bikes and cars...

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VermilionX · Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:16 am

if i can take a 40 speed limit corner in my car at 70mph, does it mean that i can take my bike at that same speed or even higher?

i mean generally speaking, sportsbikes should be more maneuverable than cars, right?

i know there's the fact im already experienced w/ my car but not w/ my bike.

im just asking. im not gonna try it yet. im just curious on the mechanics comparison of cars and bikes.

nike_soccer · Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:21 am

well...yes and no.

cars have 4 fat tires to corner with...

bike turning is based on how well the rider can execute a lean.

But if the best biker and the best driver took a turn, it's my understanding that a car would be able to hit the turn faster.

VermilionX · Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:25 am

nike_soccer wrote: But if the best biker and the best driver took a turn, it's my understanding that a car would be able to hit the turn faster.

that's interesting... i guess i have a misconception then.

thanks.

nike_soccer · Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:57 am

Here you go. I thought you might like to watch this since you have a gixxer, and it will show you how the turning is compared:

VIDEO IS WORK SAFE

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... fifth+gear

#5 Unread post by **Sev** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:32 am

You can powerslide easily in a car... you cannot do so on bike. However, I find that on my bike I'll take corners much faster then in the car. Mostly because I won't powerslide my car.

scan · #6 Unread post by **scan** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:06 am

A point well made in the video is most cars are not that effective. It depends on the car and bike we are talking about for a the final answer. I think a 72 Camero with a performance engine could never do as well as most bikes in the curvey bits. But a Subaru WRX with the right tires and suspension would give some bikes a run for the money.

But really this is about you as a rider. You need to go to those corners on your bike at a resonable speed first. Get to know how you feel and you can pick up your pace. Do not out ride your abilities. This is how many rider bite the dust. Don't think "I go this fast in my car, so I can go fast on the bike". Dangerous line of thinking.

#7 Unread post by **Sev** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:15 am

Wow, I just watched that race, and it looked like that bike spent a lot of time trying to make sure the rider didn't stay on it.

nike_soccer · Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:19 am

scanevalexec wrote:Get to know how you feel and you can pick up your pace. Do not out ride your abilities. This is how many rider bite the dust. Don't think "I go this fast in my car, so I can go fast on the bike". Dangerous line of thinking.

True that. One of my riding buddies took the lead the other day and came out of the turn in a tank slapper, a BAD one.

Strangest thing too, earlier that day at a stop light we were talking about tank slappers and how to get out of one safely. Glad I told him then, and I'm sure he is too, haha.

CNF2002 · #9 Unread post by **CNF2002** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:57 am

Interesting I also thought it was the other way around.

But, I dont take corners in the cage or the bike to know any different anyway.

VermilionX · Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:29 pm

scanevalexec wrote: But really this is about you as a rider. You need to go to those corners on your bike at a resonable speed first. Get to know how you feel and you can pick up your pace. Do not out ride your abilities. This is how many rider bite the dust. Don't think "I go this fast in my car, so I can go fast on the bike". Dangerous line of thinking.

yeah im well aware of this, i mentioned how im already experienced w/ my car and how im NOT experienced w/ my bike. so i always move slower on my bike and leave more room on everything i do on my bike.