dropped my bike

[VermilionX]

In fact I know a lady who can take a full dress touring bike and do figure 8's inside her two car garage.

A typical one car garage in Alberta...

http://www.tpguess.com/~guess/God02a.JPG

no wonder!

[Mintbread]

the DMV circle test is stupid, it doesn't prove anything that can show you can be safe on the road.

That is just a cop out.

I would put good money on a rider capable of doing slow speed maneuvers is a lot safer on the road than any moron with a fast bike and a straight stretch of road.

I value my slow speed skills a million times more than my ludicrous speed skills. They make me a far better rider.

[Sev]

the DMV circle test is stupid, it doesn't prove anything that can show you can be safe on the road.

That is just a cop out.

I would put good money on a rider capable of doing slow speed maneuvers is a lot safer on the road than any moron with a fast bike and a straight stretch of road.

I value my slow speed skills a million times more than my ludicrous speed skills. They make me a far better rider.

Quoted For Truth!

[VermilionX]

That is just a cop out.

I would put good money on a rider capable of doing slow speed maneuvers is a lot safer on the road than any moron with a fast bike and a straight stretch of road.

I value my slow speed skills a million times more than my ludicrous speed skills. They make me a far better rider.

compare the DMV test to the MSF test... DMV test is cr@p! MSF actually teaches you stuff you can use on the street.

making tight U turns is great for time saving on parking lots or other non-traffic places. but on the streets... it's very rare that you'll need it.

[Mintbread]

Anyone who has ridden for longer than five minutes will tell you that is complete garbage.

[Sev]

Let him toss about his imprecations and justifications, nothing you can say is going to change his mind, just have fun with it.

I hear the 2006 GSX-R 1000 has a faulty rear shock that causes the rear end to slowly jack itself up.

[VermilionX]

in the 800 miles that i got now... the only time i felt the need to do a tight U turn on the streets was on small alleys, and i rarely ride around small alleys.

where do you use the DMV super tight U turns?

[DivideOverflow]

Slow speed maneuvers are very important. Especially with traffic in mind... I can do full circles in the street that my house is on (residential street, not even two lanes). What can you say about your riding skills if you drop your bike when you are hardly moving?

No offense to the poster, but you should probably learn how to control your bike at all speeds...

Verm, maybe you are confused, but slow speed control is very important in city driving, especially with traffic. You don't want to take up 3 lanes making a U-turn (or even just turning from one street to another). Lack of bike control at slow speeds = n00bsauce.

That is a primary reason people suggest a smaller bike to start with, they are lighter, and it is much easier to perform low speed maneuvers with them.

It isn't hard to go straight... most bikes will do that by themselves.

[Mintbread]

where do you use the DMV super tight U turns?

You just don't get it. They are not testing you to make sure you know how to do a tight U-turn, it is simply a means to determine your ability to control the bike at slow speeds.
Do you think they are going to run through every possible scenario you may encounter whilst riding?

800 miles you say? Sorry for doubting you...

[VermilionX]

Slow speed maneuvers are very important. Especially with traffic in mind... I can do full circles in the street that my house is on (residential street, not even two lanes). What can you say about your riding skills if you drop your bike when you are hardly moving?

No offense to the poster, but you should probably learn how to control your bike at all speeds...

Verm, maybe you are confused, but slow speed control is very important in city driving, especially with traffic. You don't want to take up 3 lanes making a U-turn (or even just turning from one street to another). Lack of bike control at slow speeds = n00bsauce.

That is a primary reason people suggest a smaller bike to start with, they are lighter, and it is much easier to perform low speed maneuvers with them.

It isn't hard to go straight... most bikes will do that by themselves.

i don't take 3 lanes when i make right or left turns, except when im gonna immediately turn again to the other side, then i take more lanes since that will position me for the other lane. but of course, i look 1st before i take and switch lanes.

i rarely make u turns but i think i take 2 lanes but definitely not 3 lanes.

someday, i'll only need one lane, but no rush since i rarely use it.