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jonnythan wrote:

Sevulturus wrote:It's still pitting a $12000 bike against a $2000000 car. I fail to see what it proves.

Apparently an F1 car can do 0 - 60 in about 2.5 seconds and 0 - 100 in about 3.5 seconds. So the F1 car would be at 100 around the time a literbike hits 60.

In any case, it "proves" that the F1 car has faster acceleration than a motorcycle.

I'm sure I'm not the first person to have wondered which would win a race. It's fun to see someone do.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Busa did 0-60 in about 2 secs, and I thought the ZX14 beat that by a hair or two?

Just saying, if there's already a stock bike out there that would fare better in this race (busa or ZX-14) than it already invalidates their experiment. As someone already said, its racing a $12k machine verses a million dollar machine.

They made the swingarm longer by a few mm? Try a few feet and see how it fares. Even watching the guy try and keep up in the race as he's pulling a full wheelie. A good driver would have got that front wheel back down so he could use more of his power. You don't see Moto GP guys pulling insane high wheelies for extended periods for that very reason.

Cool to see...up there with the Porche vs jet vs R1 video.

But in the end...they coulda at least used a faster bike for the comparision...preferably a drag specific bike...but I would have even settled for one of the STOCK BIKES that are faster such as a busa or ZX14.

The Car had 900hp and reved upwords of 18,000rpm. With those kinda figures it seems a busa with a turbo or nos would have been a better contender...it would have helped to equal the power/weight distribution between the F1 car and the bike.

Looks like a ZX-14 and Busa can both do about 2.5 seconds, which surprised me. But by the time you start adding long swingarms to a bike, you're pretty much building a drag racer.. and an F1 is no drag racer.

I don't know what the point of the "experiment" is. I thought it was neat.

Venarius wrote:But in the end...they coulda at least used a faster bike for the comparision...preferably a drag specific bike...but I would have even settled for one of the STOCK BIKES that are faster such as a busa or ZX14.

That defeats the purpose, it's a Honda vs Honda vs Honda... Though they shoulda used the GP bike instead of the SBK.

Geoff650R wrote:

Venarius wrote:But in the end...they coulda at least used a faster bike for the comparision...preferably a drag specific bike...but I would have even settled for one of the STOCK BIKES that are faster such as a busa or ZX14.

That defeats the purpose, it's a Honda vs Honda vs Honda... Though they shoulda used the GP bike instead of the SBK.

Maybe they used a superbike because of, you know, that whole British Superbike thing and this being an obviously British program and whatnot.

I think a lot of people in this thread are taking this video a LOT more seriously than they need to.

Put an extra million $ into that bike and you'd smoke the car... It wouldn't even take the whole mil. Frame extension and wheelie wheels would enable that bike to apply full power on the start, instead of waiting a hundred yards for that front end to come down, (just about everytime he shifted.)

Oh thats why on some haya busas the swing arm is like 5 feet long

dr_bar wrote:Put an extra million $ into that bike and you'd smoke the car... It wouldn't even take the whole mil. Frame extension and wheelie wheels would enable that bike to apply full power on the start, instead of waiting a hundred yards for that front end to come down, (just about everytime he shifted.)

And if you're going to do that, I'll just point at a Top Fuel dragster and laugh at you.

black mariah wrote:

dr_bar wrote:Put an extra million $ into that bike and you'd smoke the car... It wouldn't even take the whole mil. Frame extension and wheelie wheels would enable that bike to apply full power on the start, instead of waiting a hundred yards for that front end to come down, (just about everytime he shifted.)

And if you're going to do that, I'll just point at a Top Fuel dragster and laugh at you.

It should have been GP machine (Honda RA806E) vs. GP machine (Honda RC211V). Neither of which are designed for drag racing. I actually thought it was sad that a production based motorcycle finished that close to the F1. Not to mention the fact that the rider either wasn't very skilled or just had a bad start. (The front wheel popped up at initial start and then dropped very fast as if the rider wasn't in complete control)

BTW...as soon as you put these two vehicles on a race track, the F1 would start lapping the bike within a few laps.

Bah! What normal person can buy an F1 car anyway let alone make it street legal?

In and issue of a UK bike mag this Porsche beat the writer on the bike but just barely and plus the writer couldn't handle it all too well around the track anyhow. Another mag (maybe the same one) pitted an F1 vs bike vs stunt plane.

black mariah wrote:

dr_bar wrote:Put an extra million $ into that bike and you'd smoke the car... It wouldn't even take the whole mil. Frame extension and wheelie wheels would enable that bike to apply full power on the start, instead of waiting a hundred yards for that front end to come down, (just about everytime he shifted.)

And if you're going to do that, I'll just point at a Top Fuel dragster and laugh at you.

even a funny car would own either one. neither the bike nor the car were ideally set up for this kind of race. besides, it was a publicity stunt.