Gymkhana Videos - Capt Crash plz Elaborate

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#11 Post by **MZ33** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:22 am

This is certainly beyond my ken, but I'm not going to let that stop me from hazarding a guess.

I think it was posted to advertise for a Stunting School DVD, and they want you to know/think that learning in person is not all its cracked up to be. Either that or DVD instruction beats no instruction. The video seems old, the bikes seem old, the whole set-up seems dated.

No one has commented on it, either, I noticed. That speaks volumes!

Dragon on Wheels · Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:11 pm

I think they're doing it on purpose. The people in the background seem to be laughing everytime someone falls down. Now, they could be just really mean-spirited, but it seems to be some kind of weird show to me.

beginner · #13 Post by **beginner** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:20 pm

I added that video to my favorites on youtube some months back. I replay it from time to time trying to understand the falls better. One way or another the bikes fall because the tires lose traction. I beleive most of them are rear wheel sliping first. Some times the bikes lay down and the front and rear of the bike slide evenly on the pavement but in more cases the bikes slide on the ground as though the rear of the bike has more momentum than the front because it was the rear that let go first.

CaptCrashIdaho · #14 Post by **CaptCrashIdaho** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:47 pm

Here's some back vocab:

"Tucking the Front" or is when the front lets go first, one of the nice things about tucking it is you see the handlebars 'tuck' in the direction of the fall.

"Losing the front" is when the front lets go, and you lowside but the front doesn't tuck under, the rider keeps it straight.

"Lowsiding" or "Losing the rear" is when the rear lets go first. The telltale sign is that the bike looks to pivot on the front wheel.

"Highsiding" is when you lose the rear, it hooks back up and snaps the bike upright, generally catapulting the rider. When you slip/drift/slide the rear highsiding is a very, very grave danger.

Rider #1 Tucks the front. The rear still has drive when the front is sliding.
Rider #2 Loses the front. There's a little tuck there but it's not profound.
Rider #3 Tucks it.
Rider #4 Tucks it.
Rider #5 Loses the rear.
Rider #6 Loses the rear.

Then I got kinda bored...I mean how long are you supposed to watch a minibike kick a guys butt?

Dude at 2:06 tucks it...

Most that lose the front kinda pogo it right before they lose it.. they get hard on the brakes, then off then on and the front is unloading as they dive in...hence tucking or losing the front.

beginner · #15 Post by **beginner** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:31 pm

In a thread now closed someone asked the diameter of the circles in this video. The channel owner says 5 meters which would work out to 16.4'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ns_82h ... ture=email

RhadamYgg · #16 Post by **RhadamYgg** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:01 pm

beginner wrote:In a thread now closed someone asked the diameter of the circles in this video. The channel owner says 5 meters which would work out to 16.4'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ns_82h ... ture=email

Thanks beginner - I need to find a good place to work on this. Especially when I get the new bike.

RhadamYgg

#17 Post by **storysunfolding** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:02 pm

RhadamYgg wrote:
beginner wrote:In a thread now closed someone asked the diameter of the circles in this video. The channel owner says 5 meters which would work out to 16.4'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ns_82h ... ture=email
Thanks beginner - I need to find a good place to work on this. Especially when I get the new bike.

RhadamYgg

If you master it then you'll be king!

Oh man, I'll be here all week

TEvo · #18 Post by **TEvo** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:08 pm

CaptCrashIdaho wrote: "Highsiding" is when you lose the rear, it hooks back up and snaps the bike upright, generally catapulting the rider. When you slip/drift/slide the rear highsiding is a very, very grave danger.

Here's one for the ages:

http://www.livevideo.com/video/AE357091 ... crash.aspx

RhadamYgg · #19 Post by **RhadamYgg** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:11 pm

TEvo wrote:
CaptCrashIdaho wrote: "Highsiding" is when you lose the rear, it hooks back up and snaps the bike upright, generally catapulting the rider. When you slip/drift/slide the rear highsiding is a very, very grave danger.
Here's one for the ages:

http://www.livevideo.com/video/AE357091 ... crash.aspx

And the best moment from this clip....

"and he's ok!!!!"

--- or if he was a cat -----

"I meant to do that"

RhadamYgg

CaptCrashIdaho · #20 Post by **CaptCrashIdaho** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:13 pm

Yeah, I was hoping someone would post a good one! Well done, the one at Laguna this year was specatular too!