Capital Punishment: Yay or Nay

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#11 Unread post by storysunfolding »

Be careful in thinking that modern forensics can get irrefutable proof. In real life it's nothing like CSI with the flashy lab, and articulate well dressed intelligent people and "dead to rights" analysis. Even when you have incredibly damning evidence: Evident as part of the crime (say found under the fingernails with fresh blood), no chance of contamination, 100% match across 20 alleles (technically not a 100% match but with high probability), and probabilities exist that there is only 1.2 people in the entire world (population ~7billion) that could have the same DNA- you can still loose.

Lawyers try to run circles around your expert, pay another expert to poke holes, and unfortunately most of the lab people I know are exceptionally intelligent but not very articulate.
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I have changed my view on Capital Punishment. I am now FOR Capital Punishment. Many reasons for this. There are many attrocities that happen, but none worse to me than these repeat pedophiles and rapists, who get sent to prison for a very short sentence, get fed, watered and health care, re-educated, therapy and free medicine so we can re-enter them into society to destroy lives again and again. Canada has become a safe haven for these "so called human beings". People argue, well they are sick and have problems, but as a society we should rehabilitate and forgive. And of course there is the religious point of view. "Who has the god given right to take a life"? When a child or woman has been raped, who provides Food, shelter, medication and therapy so they can re-enter society as normal functioning adults. No, they are left to help themselves by paying for everything. Do people not understand the life altering damage that has been done? There is no cure for pedophila other than death. Oh I know many are gasping saying how inhumane and barbaric.
What about Robert Pickton? Does he deserve life? Hacking up females and feeding them to his pigs?

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We could always form another penal island. Don't give them resources just drop them off. If God wants to provide for them, he will. If not- they can do whatever.
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storysunfolding wrote:We could always form another penal island. Don't give them resources just drop them off. If God wants to provide for them, he will. If not- they can do whatever.
Good idea.
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#15 Unread post by Amdonim »

Totally against it for a few reasons. First, it's a bit anachronistic. Also I feel it's pretty hypocritical as a punishment for murder. And like you mentioned, I think America has had ~120 people exonerated post mortem thanks to DNA. It's one thing exonerating someone in prison and giving them reparations. Still sucks, but better than being dead.

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storysunfolding wrote:We could always form another penal island. Don't give them resources just drop them off. If God wants to provide for them, he will. If not- they can do whatever.
This. They can go live with their kind and survive on the drop-offs.

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Triumphgirl wrote:I have changed my view on Capital Punishment. I am now FOR Capital Punishment. Many reasons for this. There are many attrocities that happen, but none worse to me than these repeat pedophiles and rapists, who get sent to prison for a very short sentence, get fed, watered and health care, re-educated, therapy and free medicine so we can re-enter them into society to destroy lives again and again. Canada has become a safe haven for these "so called human beings". People argue, well they are sick and have problems, but as a society we should rehabilitate and forgive. And of course there is the religious point of view. "Who has the god given right to take a life"? When a child or woman has been raped, who provides Food, shelter, medication and therapy so they can re-enter society as normal functioning adults. No, they are left to help themselves by paying for everything. Do people not understand the life altering damage that has been done? There is no cure for pedophila other than death. Oh I know many are gasping saying how inhumane and barbaric.
What about Robert Pickton? Does he deserve life? Hacking up females and feeding them to his pigs?


The media does a very good job of over exaggerating crime rates in canada. Especially when in comes to those offenders out on parole. The general perception of individuals out on parole is that they are likely to re-offend, when in actuality only a few breach conditions. Those very few who do re-offend do so less violently.

I believe Robert Pickton is serving his life sentence in Canada's only super-max prison and he will not be coming out until he is either days from death or in a casket.
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#18 Unread post by blues2cruise »

Clifford Olsen also got the police to pay a large sum of money to his wife in exchange for him telling the police where the dead children were.

He is the rare exception to my feeling against the death penalty. He killed so many children, seemed proud of the fact, is not repentent, will never be released from jail, although he keeps trying.....It must have cost millions so far to keep him incarcerated.
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blues2cruise wrote:Clifford Olsen also got the police to pay a large sum of money to his wife in exchange for him telling the police where the dead children were.

He is the rare exception to my feeling against the death penalty. He killed so many children, seemed proud of the fact, is not repentent, will never be released from jail, although he keeps trying.....It must have cost millions so far to keep him incarcerated.


Goodness gracious i had my info mixed up it was Olsen that bargained the deal not Pickton.

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#20 Unread post by Triumphgirl »

Makes me sick to think that even one cent of my tax dollars is spent to feed either Clifford Olsen or Robert Pickton. Though i would happily pay for the bullet that gets put between their eyes.

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