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Re: One more try

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:34 am
by QuietMonkey
Martin,

I have only recently returned to this forum after quite a few years away but your experiences mirror my own in certain ways. As you have a very active interest in posting, I'd just say kick back for awhile, add your comments to threads and see what develops. You may not get the interaction that you'd like, but your contributions may help others visiting the site.

Sometimes people consider a web-site, dealership, motorcycle brand or whatever as sort of a sacred ground and thus a little ribbing can turn them against you. Traditional human values I guess. I often write in a similar manner to how I speak and it can irk people who do not know me, and even sometimes people who do know me :-) especially since I also have a habit of pulling ideas with a (possibly) tenuous connection into another topic of conversation.

Written correspondence has it's challenges, especially with such a variety of people and large variety of topics available here. Directness works for some, and not for others. You can never be certain that two people are on the same "page" or in the same mindset. Factual information flows easier in writing than does the underlying emotion.

Re: One more try

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:48 am
by Kingshead
QuietMonkey wrote:Martin,

I have only recently returned to this forum after quite a few years away but your experiences mirror my own in certain ways. As you have a very active interest in posting, I'd just say kick back for awhile, add your comments to threads and see what develops. You may not get the interaction that you'd like, but your contributions may help others visiting the site.

Sometimes people consider a web-site, dealership, motorcycle brand or whatever as sort of a sacred ground and thus a little ribbing can turn them against you. Traditional human values I guess. I often write in a similar manner to how I speak and it can irk people who do not know me, and even sometimes people who do know me :-) especially since I also have a habit of pulling ideas with a (possibly) tenuous connection into another topic of conversation.

Written correspondence has it's challenges, especially with such a variety of people and large variety of topics available here. Directness works for some, and not for others. You can never be certain that two people are on the same "page" or in the same mindset. Factual information flows easier in writing than does the underlying emotion.
Well said.

Martin

Re: One more try

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:22 pm
by totalmotorcycle
Kingshead wrote:They should appreciate every member and not invite long standing members to vacate for just expressing their point of view on a topic. The staff have the ability to delete comments if they feel them offensive to minors that may visit the forum. Instead they chose to lock the thread and refuse to allow any of the other members to comment as they saw fit. This has the odor of censorship for free thinking individuals.

The above mentioned thread is titled "I thought bikers were supposed to be tough". It was only a comment on sites not allowing debates due to some crying home to momma and resulting in the banning of members. I was hoping this would not be the case here but apparently to no avail as the locking proves. This is why I reluctantly agreed to stay and give it "one more try" at the staffs request. I felt it best to make my point of view clear from the beginning so there would not be any misunderstanding how I felt on this topic.

Martin
Martin,

Let me set the record straight. I (that's ME, the admin) locked the "I thought bikers were supposed to be tough" thread because it was answered to it's fullest extent, I noted that and locked it so my post was last and people would know why it was locked.

It takes some time to know and feel how the community flows, what is a good post and what is not acceptable. I (and my mods) view everyone has a right to express their opinions, ideas, thoughts, etc, but one persons rights do not supercede anothers rights. The language filters are here because we have under age riders reading and posting on here and I myself don't want to read swearing either.

The bottom of the main forum page there is a "who is online" you will see 800-1500+ people are online at any one time.

P.S. this is the type of thread that is best a PM rather than a forum thread as it deals with something you have a forum issue with and need an answer for, that's where I or one of my many Mod's come in play. So this thread will disapear once you feel your questions are answered.

Our forum is very lightly moderated, we only remove spam posts and very rarely kick members unless they are abusive. The member in question was not kicked or asked to leave by us, it was a decision wholy his own, but he is welcome back anytime and I did PM that to him.

Mike

Re: One more try

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:26 pm
by Kingshead
Quiet Monkey was the one invited to leave after posting a response to the thread not John.

Martin

Re: One more try

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:40 pm
by totalmotorcycle
Kingshead wrote:Quiet Monkey was the one invited to leave after posting a response to the thread not John.

Martin
I didn't know that; but no matter it all will work out in the wash. We are all here to learn and share. :D

Re: One more try

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:22 pm
by Kingshead
totalmotorcycle wrote:
Kingshead wrote:Quiet Monkey was the one invited to leave after posting a response to the thread not John.

Martin
I didn't know that; but no matter it all will work out in the wash. We are all here to learn and share. :D
This was the reason for my concern. As mentioned, I will continue visiting the site and offer whatever knowledge I have to others and ask for same as needed.

Martin

Re: One more try

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:10 am
by Gummiente
Kingshead wrote:This was the reason for my concern. As mentioned, I will continue visiting the site and offer whatever knowledge I have to others and ask for same as needed.

Martin
Bloody decent of you, old chap!

Re: One more try

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:31 am
by blues2cruise
Some people have full time jobs, hobbies, families, etc., and don't always have time to play on the internet. When we do get time to play on the internet, it isn't possible to keep up with every single post every person makes.

Some of us just read posts because sometimes there is nothing to say. :dunno: