slow drivers

[Chris8187]

Those that get pulled over on highways are just really unlucky I think. Look how many people go over 20mph over the speed limit and do not get pulled over. If you do not want to get stopped, do not have your vehicle going obviously faster than the rest of the cars and try to be in the middle of a group instead of the back.

[cruisinflatout]

Stop going 65 1/2 in the fast lane then...

You're more liable to kill yourself driving like a pansy than keeping up with the normal flow of traffic...

I should swerve around everyone and act like a jerk on the road so you don't think I'm driving like a 'pansy'. How fast should I go to break from pansy status? 70? 80? Who decides? You I guess.

Enjoy your ticket. I just hope I don't see you smear someone across the road while you try to teach them that YOU own the road.

Well...thank you for that. But if you (or anyone else) is ok with going the exact speed limit, then it is not necessary to ever be in the fast lane.

BTW...I haven't had a speeding ticket of any type of infraction actually for roughly the last ten years...but I do crank it up a bit when I'm in the passing lane...probably 15% faster than the limit and then slow back down when I've passed...and I've never been in an accident and I've never had anyone shacking their fist at me as they pass because I was being a you.

[blues2cruise]

Stop going 65 1/2 in the fast lane then...

You're more liable to kill yourself driving like a pansy than keeping up with the normal flow of traffic...

I should swerve around everyone and act like a jerk on the road so you don't think I'm driving like a 'pansy'. How fast should I go to break from pansy status? 70? 80? Who decides? You I guess.

Enjoy your ticket. I just hope I don't see you smear someone across the road while you try to teach them that YOU own the road.

I agree with you. I should be able to drive/ride legal without being harassed. I drive for a living and it won't do my career any good to get tickets. I used to drive aggressively and it cause a lot of stress. When you are trying to get somewhere fast and you are weaving in and out and can't get anywhere, it leads to frustration which leads to anger.
Now I choose to drive in a professional manner even when I am not working and it makes for a much more relaxed drive/ride.

Why, even yesterday, Christmas day on my way home from work, I was called some choice names. Why? Because some guy wanted to go 80 in a 50 zone and I was doing 55? A couple of miles later I caught up to him at the red light. As I pulled into the left turn lane, he stuck his head out the window of his van and started calling me some names that cannot be mentioned on this site because the censor would "blot" them out.

And yes, I was in the right lane so he could have passed if he wanted to but he chose to speed up to within a few feet of my back bumper and when I was not intimidated into speeding he got ticked.
Should I be forced to drive 30 over the limit because some jerk thinks he might get where he going 3 minutes sooner?

[Ninja Geoff]

Stop going 65 1/2 in the fast lane then...

You're more liable to kill yourself driving like a pansy than keeping up with the normal flow of traffic...

I should swerve around everyone and act like a jerk on the road so you don't think I'm driving like a 'pansy'. How fast should I go to break from pansy status? 70? 80? Who decides? You I guess.

Enjoy your ticket. I just hope I don't see you smear someone across the road while you try to teach them that YOU own the road.

Well...thank you for that. But if you (or anyone else) is ok with going the exact speed limit, then it is not necessary to ever be in the fast lane.

Not true. If there's a cop with someone pulled over, you're suppose to move to the fast lane. Or an accident. Or if there's a car doing 55 in the slow lane, the person going 65 has every right to pass in the fast lane, and shouldn't be hated for doing so, even if he's passing multiple persons going slow in the slow lane. Besides, you're not really SUPPOSED to go above the posted speed limit and the fast lane is for those who wish to pass the persons traveling under said limit.

People have to stop bitching about so much, heaven forbid if someone follows the law. Now, if some moron is traveling in the fast lane without passing anyone, then he/she's free game. Well, unless there's a sign saying to travel in the slow lane because of construction ahead.

[cruisinflatout]

Stop going 65 1/2 in the fast lane then...

You're more liable to kill yourself driving like a pansy than keeping up with the normal flow of traffic...

I should swerve around everyone and act like a jerk on the road so you don't think I'm driving like a 'pansy'. How fast should I go to break from pansy status? 70? 80? Who decides? You I guess.

Enjoy your ticket. I just hope I don't see you smear someone across the road while you try to teach them that YOU own the road.

Well...thank you for that. But if you (or anyone else) is ok with going the exact speed limit, then it is not necessary to ever be in the fast lane.

Not true. If there's a cop with someone pulled over, you're suppose to move to the fast lane. Or an accident. Or if there's a car doing 55 in the slow lane, the person going 65 has every right to pass in the fast lane, and shouldn't be hated for doing so, even if he's passing multiple persons going slow in the slow lane. Besides, you're not really SUPPOSED to go above the posted speed limit and the fast lane is for those who wish to pass the persons traveling under said limit.

People have to stop bitching about so much, heaven forbid if someone follows the law. Now, if some moron is traveling in the fast lane without passing anyone, then he/she's free game. Well, unless there's a sign saying to travel in the slow lane because of construction ahead.

I wasn't talking about having a valid reason to pass on the left when there is a circumstance that warrants it. That's understandable.

I'm talking about the no funs that decide they need to pass at the speed limit and hold up the left lane for 20 minutes...or even worse, the ones that feel there is a need to be the law out there and slow everyone down so they hold up the fast lane.

I don't speed like a maniac, but I do go roughly 15% above the speed limit...For example, up here, the speed limit is 110 (kms/h) and I go about 120...which I do not think is unreasonable and yah, I get a little frustrated when I come up behind someone going 108 in the fast lane...I mean, take a bus...they go the speed limit all the time and they rarely hold up the fast lane for no reason...

Now, if some moron is traveling in the fast lane without passing anyone, then he/she's free game.

^^^ That, in particular, is what I'm talking about. If you want to follow the law to a tee, then so be it, but don't ever jaywalk then, don't litter, and stay in the right lane while you're being so perfect...

[scan]

The past couple of years I've mellowed. I can ride behind someone at the speed limit without going nuts. I give a good distance and just relax. I prefer to go at 5 to 10 over pace myself. If someone is going under the speed limit, I will do the same thing as far as relaxing and safety spacing, but I will watch for passing opertunities. I do lots of country road riding, and passing is part of the fun of owning a bike like mine.

On the highway people should stay right unless passing. It is not law, but it is common curtousy. When I was in Germany a couple years back I had a chance to do the Autobahn. Amazing really. Many places have speed limits. Mainly the cities. In between are vast stretches of highway with no limit on how fast you can go (conditions allowing). Everyone stay right except to pass. Trucks are limited to 100kph I believe, and they are always over on the right. Even in the cities people stayed right. Why don't we get that here?

[CNF2002]

Well...thank you for that. But if you (or anyone else) is ok with going the exact speed limit, then it is not necessary to ever be in the fast lane.

Where, exactly, is this fantastic 'fast lane' you speak of? The left most lane is a 'passing lane', assuming there's no HOV. If I am in the passing lane, passing a vehicle to the right of me, obviously I am travelling above the normal flow of traffic (unless that particular person is going unusually slow).

I am using the passing lane for its intended purpose...and doing so in a safe manner. If you are passing people to your right at 10-20MPH above their speed, you're not travelling safely with the flow of traffic. It only takes me several seconds to pass someone at 5mph above their speed, then merge back into traffic.

Some people however think the passing lane is the 'free for all' lane, and whoever happens to be going the fastest has the right of way...thus when I drive safely and pass people normally, I get some jerk on my behind 2 feet away flashing his light and honking his horn because he can't manage his time and drive safely to work on time.

That's what erks me. But these days, everyone thinks speed laws are just there to produce income for the state and they are laws meant to be broken. Maybe you haven't gotten a ticket...you're lucky, but keep speeding and playing the odds and eventually you'll get one.

[cruisinflatout]

Well...thank you for that. But if you (or anyone else) is ok with going the exact speed limit, then it is not necessary to ever be in the fast lane.

Where, exactly, is this fantastic 'fast lane' you speak of? The left most lane is a 'passing lane', assuming there's no HOV. If I am in the passing lane, passing a vehicle to the right of me, obviously I am travelling above the normal flow of traffic (unless that particular person is going unusually slow).

I am using the passing lane for its intended purpose...and doing so in a safe manner. If you are passing people to your right at 10-20MPH above their speed, you're not travelling safely with the flow of traffic. It only takes me several seconds to pass someone at 5mph above their speed, then merge back into traffic.

Some people however think the passing lane is the 'free for all' lane, and whoever happens to be going the fastest has the right of way...thus when I drive safely and pass people normally, I get some jerk on my behind 2 feet away flashing his light and honking his horn because he can't manage his time and drive safely to work on time.

That's what erks me. But these days, everyone thinks speed laws are just there to produce income for the state and they are laws meant to be broken. Maybe you haven't gotten a ticket...you're lucky, but keep speeding and playing the odds and eventually you'll get one.

I'm Canadian, so everything is in kilometers up here (as everywhere else in the world) so passing at 10kms above the limit is the equivelant 6MPH which is not unsafe IMO (and yours apparently)

I'm speaking mostly of divided (dual lane both directions) highways and poeple that decide that the left lane is his/her personal lane where they can hold up traffic because they're following the law to a tee.

I dunno about the states - but going an extra 5-10 kms/h above the limit will generally not warrent being pulled over as there are many others that exceed the limit more than that.

Speed limits and the enforcement of them, for the most part, are purely a cash grab btw, and I think it's ridiculous to think otherwise.

[CNF2002]

Speed limits and the enforcement of them, for the most part, are purely a cash grab btw, and I think it's ridiculous to think otherwise.

I disagree. They are an easy source of revenue for a city, district, county, whatever, but you can't have people driving any old speed they want in the city or on major freeways. Maybe on a highway this would work, but this is not the autobahn. I doubt many people would survive the autobahn driving as they do in America, talking on their cell, sipping their coffee, and playing with the CD player (or DVD player as the case may be).

Setting a speed limit also applies to those who drive under it. How would our freeways work if we have one person driving 25, and another person driving 100? A set speed limit helps traffic to flow smoothly. And of course enforcement is necessary or no one would bother...do we really want to leave up to the average driver to decide what a "safe" speed is? I don't think I want to leave it up to the soccer mom in the Ford Expedition who thinks 100mph is safe to her because she thinks she's driving an invincible tank.

There are instances where speed limits are used for blatant 'money-grabbing'...speed traps in small towns for instance where it is a substantial source of revenue. But these are exceptions.

We need speed limits as much as we need stoplights.

I'm speaking mostly of divided (dual lane both directions) highways and poeple that decide that the left lane is his/her personal lane where they can hold up traffic because they're following the law to a tee.

If they are not passing the traffic in the other lane, I would agree with you. But if they are passing traffic, they have the right of way. You and your lead foot will just have to wait.

[cruisinflatout]

If they are not passing the traffic in the other lane, I would agree with you. But if they are passing traffic, they have the right of way. You and your lead foot will just have to wait.

I don't know how plainly I can say that this is exactly what I'm referring to...if they are actually passing (which would involve going faster than the car on the right) that's fine...I'm talking about the people that hold up traffic by being in the passing lane and NOT passing.

And I don't think +5/10 over the limit would warrant me having a "lead foot" but so be it if so...