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therealandymilinokis wrote:i dont plan on falling

No one who ever died or was seriously injured on a motorcycle planned to.

therealandymilinokis wrote:i dont ride with a jacket, but there are no big interstates close to me. I typically ride with jeans and a short sleve shirt and my umbros. People call me stupid for not wearing leather or any of that stuff, but at least i got a helmet. i dont plan on falling so why bother?

Well... I don't think anyone really plans on falling but it happens... I have given up wearing a jacket in this crazy weather... it just isn't comfortable... if I can't enjoy myself while riding because I am too hot why bother riding? Anyway... I will and do wear the jacket if I am going on a long trip or on a highway with speeds over 50mph... but in this 90+ degree weather... forget it.

Sevulturus wrote:I love it when someone with no grounding in reality starts commenting on what is an isn't possible.

Go take your pills and chill out.

Then please, by all means, show me where in the Hurt report or in any other report on motorcycle safety there is a significant statistical representation of jackets being torn off of people in motorcycle accidents.

Before you start spouting about reality, I suggest you join it.

black mariah wrote:

Sevulturus wrote:I love it when someone with no grounding in reality starts commenting on what is an isn't possible.

Go take your pills and chill out.

Then please, by all means, show me where in the Hurt report or in any other report on motorcycle safety there is a significant statistical representation of jackets being torn off of people in motorcycle accidents.

Before you start spouting about reality, I suggest you join it.

I enjoy living in altered realities.

How much energy does it take to remove a jacket enough to do harm? I mean, it doesn't seem like a lot.

At 10MPH a 200lb person has about 910 joules of kinetic energy... plus another 880 if they are 1 meter above the ground. So if you get off at 10MPH you have 1790 joules of energy available to remove your jacket.

That's about the same as 1320 pounds dropping one foot or a 440lb motorcycle dropping on you from three feet up.

Now, if we were to take a 440lb motorcycle and zip it to the back zipper of your jacket on a three foot tether, and then reinforce the back zipper because frankly those zippers look like they'd just pull apart, and then drop the motorcycle off a ledge so that it comes up against the tether after dropping three feet.... what are the odds it would stay on you if it wasn't zipped? Probably too good... I wouldn't want to do it... but then again I'm not an armless grandmother. Fortunately, I happen to have a neighbor who is. I'll report back as soon as possible.

therealandymilinokis wrote: i dont plan on falling so why bother?

hey superman, nobody plans on falling but when SUV turns left in front of you and you continue to do 50mph through the air until the ground stops you fall and your t-shirt and skin finally brake you body to a halt, I hope you realize that a jacket might have been a good idea.

After that you'll waer a jacket because the wind will hurt you fresh skin graft.

How much energy does it take to remove a jacket enough to do harm? I mean, it doesn't seem like a lot.

At 10MPH a 200lb person has about 910 joules of kinetic energy... plus another 880 if they are 1 meter above the ground. So if you get off at 10MPH you have 1790 joules of energy available to remove your jacket.

That's about the same as 1320 pounds dropping one foot or a 440lb motorcycle dropping on you from three feet up.

Now, if we were to take a 440lb motorcycle and zip it to the back zipper of your jacket on a three foot tether, and then reinforce the back zipper because frankly those zippers look like they'd just pull apart, and then drop the motorcycle off a ledge so that it comes up against the tether after dropping three feet.... what are the odds it would stay on you if it wasn't zipped? Probably too good... I wouldn't want to do it... but then again I'm not an armless grandmother. Fortunately, I happen to have a neighbor who is. I'll report back as soon as possible.

This argument is now dumb. Look up the phrase "statistically insignificant" and learn what it means.

What do you ride?

dieziege wrote:How much energy does it take to remove a jacket enough to do harm? I mean, it doesn't seem like a lot.

At 10MPH a 200lb person has about 910 joules of kinetic energy... plus another 880 if they are 1 meter above the ground. So if you get off at 10MPH you have 1790 joules of energy available to remove your jacket.

That's about the same as 1320 pounds dropping one foot or a 440lb motorcycle dropping on you from three feet up.

Now, if we were to take a 440lb motorcycle and zip it to the back zipper of your jacket on a three foot tether, and then reinforce the back zipper because frankly those zippers look like they'd just pull apart, and then drop the motorcycle off a ledge so that it comes up against the tether after dropping three feet.... what are the odds it would stay on you if it wasn't zipped? Probably too good... I wouldn't want to do it... but then again I'm not an armless grandmother. Fortunately, I happen to have a neighbor who is. I'll report back as soon as possible.

I have to say I am very confused I don't see how a jacket can be ripped off of someone without taking body parts with it. I think that was his point.