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VermilionX · #41 Post by **VermilionX** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:25 am

fiveoboy01 wrote:
again, im not adding horsepower.
Um, yes, you are.

i'll gain more torque down low, but i don't think it will affect the horsepower of my bike.

fiveoboy01 · #42 Post by **fiveoboy01** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:49 am

VermilionX wrote:
fiveoboy01 wrote:
again, im not adding horsepower.
Um, yes, you are.

i'll gain more torque down low, but i don't think it will affect the horsepower of my bike.

Horsepower is a number derived from torque at a certain RPM.

Generally when you add timing, you increase horsepower.

Why don't you just leave the bike alone? The more you screw with it, the more likely you are to have problems with it.

ZooTech · #43 Post by **ZooTech** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:11 am

Gotta agree here, Vermi. You're so wrapped up in making it to track days in the shortest amount of time possible that you're modding a brand new bike and likely voiding the warranty. I doubt any of the guys you'll meet on track day rode on the track until they had years of regular leisure riding and commuting under their belts. You're already behind the curve buying a liter bike for your whopping 120lb body, and now you've reversed the shift pattern adding to the process. Based on your weight and build, you definitely should have went with a 600, and you should've put 20k+ miles on it before even considering a mod or the thought of touching a knee on the ground.

Point being.....SLOW THE @#$* DOWN!!!

Your present mentality has already resulted in a crash - one with a very lucky outcome - and all you've taken from it is how to apply what happened to track days. Now, I've been on here several times defending folks who start out on liter bikes....but that's with the understanding that those folks are intelligent enough (and respectful enough of motorcycling in general) to putt around the cul-de-sac for several weeks before doing any "canyon carving". All I see from you so far is ammunition from the other side of the argument using your crippled (or lifeless) body as an example.

Your sensei would be ashamed!

Sev · #44 Post by **Sev** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:24 am

Wow, when Zootech says something like this, I'd be inclined to listen, he's one of the guys who says you can start on pretty much anything if you're careful.

Hopefully you'll take this to heart Verm.

BuzZz · #45 Post by **BuzZz** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:24 am

The timing is mentally challenged more in the lower gears (again, it is ALWAYS mentally challenged) because the mechanical advantage of 170+ hp in the lower gears makes it ridiculously easy to spin the rear tire while exiting a corner and getting on the throttle. If your lucky, you will slide out. If your not, you will highside.

Get the f**k over this bloody obsession you have with the word 'mentally challenged' in relation to your engine in a fashion you don't have any concept of.

Sorry to be so rude, but logic don't register with you here, maybe a light cussing-out will. You are screwing with chit you have no idea about, and it will bite you in the azz one day.

I'm not trying to be a dick, I am trying to get you to twig to the fact you are in over your head (deeper than usual) and, for some reason, I kinda like you and don't want you to kill yourself. Although that feeling is rapidly diminishing......

Sev · #46 Post by **Sev** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:35 am

Question:

I thought you liked me? Why don't you tell me not to kill myself?!!!!!!

VermilionX · #47 Post by **VermilionX** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:38 am

ok, i'll try it out.

if it proves to be too much then i'll remove it. happy now?

also it won't void my warranty since i'll remove it before i take it to a suzuki dealer should i need to use my extended warranty.

it's very easy to install but i would like to bring it to my mechanic since he wants to look at it... probably bec i bought the new version and he only knows how to make the older version.

BuzZz · #48 Post by **BuzZz** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:39 am

Sevulturus wrote:Question:

I thought you liked me? Why don't you tell me not to kill myself?!!!!!!

Don't you dare kill yourself, Skooter. I want to do that myself....

Sev · #49 Post by **Sev** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:39 am

They can tell if you've installed something like that. Even if you remove it.

I'm impressed that this much got through to you.

Say, when you ride normally, what rev range are you in from 1st to 4th?

Sev · #50 Post by **Sev** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:41 am

BuzZz wrote:
Sevulturus wrote:Question:

I thought you liked me? Why don't you tell me not to kill myself?!!!!!!
Don't you dare kill yourself, Skooter. I want to do that myself....

Wait, you want to kill me or yourself? This isn't something you can be vague about here... this is important! Regardless, I'm sleeping with a knife under my pillow from now on!