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#41 Unread post by intotherain »

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Dohun wrote:whatever might as well damn be renamed "You are a Beginner and want a 600cc+ I-4 sportbike? READ THIS!"

No one told me any of this I-4, V-rod, business when I was getting my bike, I would of definitely of gotten a GS500 or ninja 500..


If you have been riding for more than two years, why dont you know any of this? If I rode a scooter for two years I would know more than you.
the 650r and sv650 aren't really sportbikes... eh... it's a gray area.

Anyway- he has experience with DIRT bikes. It's an entirely different world. Tell me this dohun, hows the throttle work on a dirt bike? How do you start one? What's a monster size engine in the dirt? What's good gear to wear?

Don't know? Then shove off, leave enough alone and give the guy advice if you have it. If not keep it buttoned. No need to knock a man down for not knowing
I know, all those different engines and smooth output or w/e are all something i just started learning

Im talking about the engine, Im just pissed off in general because all you guys half a year ago told me to stick with a small bike, so I did and bought a 200cc, where I could of easily bought a ninja 500 or gs500 and be much happier right now. I never received any info from you guys about any type of engine info or saying that a ninja 500 or gs500 are still relatively good beginner bikes.

im notorious for getting into big arguments and being a betch -but of course I dont care- and tried to phrase everything here as nicely as i could and to not spark anything more. getting a new bike next year so ill stay put
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#42 Unread post by gfisha88 »

Dohun wrote:whatever might as well damn be renamed "You are a Beginner and want a 600cc+ I-4 sportbike? READ THIS!"

No one told me any of this I-4, V-rod, business when I was getting my bike, I would of definitely of gotten a GS500 or ninja 500..


If you have been riding for more than two years, why dont you know any of this? If I rode a scooter for two years I would know more than you.
suck my stick... I am not to engine smart, so what.
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#43 Unread post by intotherain »

gfisha88 wrote:
Dohun wrote:whatever might as well damn be renamed "You are a Beginner and want a 600cc+ I-4 sportbike? READ THIS!"

No one told me any of this I-4, V-rod, business when I was getting my bike, I would of definitely of gotten a GS500 or ninja 500..


If you have been riding for more than two years, why dont you know any of this? If I rode a scooter for two years I would know more than you.
suck my carrot... I am not to engine smart, so what.
no thanks im not gay, but you share a personality of this particular person on this forum, motof150.



too engine smart dammit!
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#44 Unread post by storysunfolding »

Dohun wrote:Im just pissed off in general because all you guys half a year ago told me to stick with a small bike, so I did and bought a 200cc, where I could of easily bought a ninja 500 or gs500 and be much happier right now. I never received any info from you guys about any type of engine info or saying that a ninja 500 or gs500 are still relatively good beginner bikes.
:wtf:

Your tag says you've only been on teh forum 3 months, not half a year. This forum is pretty reliable in saying you should start anywhere from teh ninja 250 to an sv650 for a beginner bike. ninga 500, gs500, rebel, old nighthawks etc etc.

I will go out on a limb and say that no one here told you to buy a 200cc chinese bike.

So i'm not sure what that's all about. Maybe another forum?
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#45 Unread post by Logitech105 »

If you are getting into STREET motorcycling in general and have never ridden a motorcycle before, I would've suggested a 125cc, dohun. :mrgreen:

gfisha88 has ridden 125's 250's etc on dirt, which is more difficult than the street. Now he is moving on to street bikes, which is easier, so I'm sure he can handle a bigger bike then a beginner would; who has never even touch a bike.

Dohun, if you rode dirtbikes before you got into streetbikes, i would've suggested a kawasaki zx-14 or maybe a less tame hayabusa to start. 8)
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#46 Unread post by Sev »

Dohun wrote:
storysunfolding wrote:
Dohun wrote:whatever might as well damn be renamed "You are a Beginner and want a 600cc+ I-4 sportbike? READ THIS!"

No one told me any of this I-4, V-rod, business when I was getting my bike, I would of definitely of gotten a GS500 or ninja 500..


If you have been riding for more than two years, why dont you know any of this? If I rode a scooter for two years I would know more than you.
the 650r and sv650 aren't really sportbikes... eh... it's a gray area.

Anyway- he has experience with DIRT bikes. It's an entirely different world. Tell me this dohun, hows the throttle work on a dirt bike? How do you start one? What's a monster size engine in the dirt? What's good gear to wear?

Don't know? Then shove off, leave enough alone and give the guy advice if you have it. If not keep it buttoned. No need to knock a man down for not knowing
I know, all those different engines and smooth output or w/e are all something i just started learning

Im talking about the engine, Im just pissed off in general because all you guys half a year ago told me to stick with a small bike, so I did and bought a 200cc, where I could of easily bought a ninja 500 or gs500 and be much happier right now. I never received any info from you guys about any type of engine info or saying that a ninja 500 or gs500 are still relatively good beginner bikes.

im notorious for getting into big arguments and being a betch -but of course I dont care- and tried to phrase everything here as nicely as i could and to not spark anything more. getting a new bike next year so ill stay put
Dohun wrote:Hello! My name is Do hun, I'm 16, and I live in Wisconsin. I started motorcycling about 2 months ago. I have been mountain biking for the past few years and I have always thought about getting a bike. I thought it would be cool to cruise down the roads at 40 mph with the wind going through my face and my clothes flapping in the wind and just to be free.

Anyways back on topic.

I took a safety course and as soon as I came out I was looking for a bike. My budget was 500-1200. (Low, I know!) I couldn't find anything. But finally after hours and hours of searching, I found a small bike company that sells 200cc, 15hp sport bikes for 1200. I bought that bike and my parents bought me a helmet, jacket, and gloves.

Anyways it starts up fine in the summer, but it wont start in the the cold weather (less than 50 F) The only way I can start it is if I kick start it for 20 minutes. This is really annoying. When I press the start button, it whines and whines but never starts. After about 5 tries the battery dies out and it does not even whine.

Does anybody know if this is a problem with the start or the battery?

Thank you!
This is your first post... sounds like you got your info telling you that you should have 250cc's or less from somewhere else. Sorry mate.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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#47 Unread post by storysunfolding »

Logitech105 wrote: gfisha88 has ridden 125's 250's etc on dirt, which is easier than the street. Now he is moving on to street bikes, which is more difficult
You had that messed up. I fixed it for you
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#48 Unread post by gfisha88 »

storysunfolding wrote:
Logitech105 wrote: gfisha88 has ridden 125's 250's etc on dirt, which is easier than the street. Now he is moving on to street bikes, which is more difficult
You had that messed up. I fixed it for you
sigh... this is going to go back and fourth big time. I think it would be dependent on the agresivenis of riding.
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#49 Unread post by Sev »

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storysunfolding wrote:
Logitech105 wrote: gfisha88 has ridden 125's 250's etc on dirt, which is easier than the street. Now he is moving on to street bikes, which is more difficult
You had that messed up. I fixed it for you
sigh... this is going to go back and fourth big time. I think it would be dependent on the agresivenis of riding.
Not really, you've got a lot less to worry about on the dirt, the falls hurt less, and the surfaces are more forgiving. Then again it's like comparing a car to a truck. They both have 4 wheels, but are rather different in the way they're used.

A lot of the stuff that you learned in dirtbiking won't carry over. You can't adjust the preload by shifting forwards and backwards on the bike, letting the back end slide out is a bad idea. Traction is totally different, as is throttle application. Not to mention the fact that the bikes you want at 3/4 throttle will be doing in excess of 100mph doesn't give you a lot of time to react. Especially when compared to a dirtbike (that seems fast at what.. 50-60mph)?

We're not knocking your skills, but at the same time, don't knock our experience.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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#50 Unread post by Lion_Lady »

gfisha88 wrote:Sigh... every one is telling me stuff i dont want to hear. What would u guys consider a *beginer* bike.. I am not saying i am going to go out and race on the streets or go 60 in a 40. I just love speed and would take all the chances i have to go to the track. KEEP IN MIND i am a BIG dude. So a 250 ninja or w/e is a lil girls bike to me.. When i got on my friends i was thinking jesus this is slow.
YOU need to keep in mind that YOU asked US for advice. Tough tuna if we're telling you stuff you don't want to hear.

We are NOT going to recommend any sort of sport bike or "R" class bike for a brand newbie. Doesn't matter that you've been riding dirt.

Street riding is a whole different game. Sure, your dirt experience will be useful, but VERY little other than basic bike control - especially dealing with loose surfaces - will carry over. Now, you can either take our recommendations seriously and try reading the sticky threads or you can go away. Personally, I'm tired of trying to decode your bad spelling and grammar.

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