Failed riding test

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dean owens · Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:35 am

enjoy your ride.

Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:24 pm

Ivan M wrote: However, you can't deny that nobody rides normally at those speeds.... uses his bike for commuting

For me slow riding and commuting goes hand and hand. That my friend is the wonderful world of the DC metro area.

Is it a practical skill? No since you could duck walk your way through traffic. However, being able to control your bike at slow speeds DOES show some facet of overall control.

ofblong · #43 Unread post by **ofblong** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:03 pm

Ivan M wrote:Where did I say I knew more than my instructors? As for whether the test was good or not, it wouldn't be the first time that the gov't mishandled things. The entire test was low speed going through cones, how does that prove a person is ready to ride at regular speeds or even highway ride? Every time I point out how idling through cones should not be the basis for getting a license, you say I have a bad attitude or I think I know everything.

I'm a practical guy. I drive a practical bike. If I'm going to get a license it should be because I can drive on the road like a normal human being, not for going through cones like a slug.

I havent read the rest of the posts so forgive me if this has been stated BUT how do you drive a bike????? I ride mine. Slow speed is where 80% (I might be off on couple percentages but I know its more so than high speed) of accidents happen. So those slow speed meanuvers WILL help you at high speeds and WILL help you avoid accidents. If you cant seem to understand that sorry but everyone else is right about you. I can do 1-2mph riding in a straight line and weaving without a problem by myself. i just tried it with my wife on and wow I got some learning to do still. Course she weighs 240lbs.

Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:10 pm

ofblong wrote:Course she weighs 240lbs.

You're a dipshit for putting that on the internet.

Wait... I can hear you getting your butt kicked from all the way down here in Va

month1202 · Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:44 pm

I think the best way is relax and practice. Practice, practice and practice then you will overcome the nervous. After several times to practice will help you a lot on test. Its my experience.

Ivan M · #46 Unread post by **Ivan M** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:45 pm

Now you're arguing semantics, which is funny, because you clearly lack reading comprehension skills and the ability to spell. Your statistic is startling. If 80% of accidents occur at low speed, then I'm sure at least 35% of those accidents occur while weaving through cones at 5 km/hr.

I'd been pretty clear about in which context I was referring to "slow speeds." No, I'm not talking about regular commuting speeds of 30 mph or 50 km/h. If you want to continue to argue points that I didn't make, perhaps you should just slowly "ride" away.

ichijou · #47 Unread post by **ichijou** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:54 pm

being a new rider myself, when i first found out what the dmv test entailed, my first though was 'well this is unfair', but the truth is in fact, riding fast really is the easy part, everything else is where it gets tricky.

i was rather quick to make the case that the test wasn't a true example of what goes on in the road, that taking it on anything other than a ninja 250 would be impossible, etc etc.

i then decided that i wanted my license more than i wanted to be angry at the dmv, so i practiced, and i sucked, wide turns, foot on the ground, near stalls, it was pretty bad, and again i blamed everything but my own lack of skill, but i kept practicing, and i'm glad i did, because when i did go in to take my test, i passed with no errors, and more so i become a better rider for it.

i say all this as someone with very little riding and no driving experience, (yes, despite being 28 i've never driven a car) i had no concept of what the clutch was before i rode my first bike, and i came into the whole thing rather gun shy, in fact the only real issue i've yet to shake is not gunning the throttle enough at times, i must look like an old lady out on the road sometimes.

anyhow, if i can overcome all that i'm more than certain others can just as well, don't give up, just keep trying, it might take awhile but it does come.

funny side note, because i had no class c license but i completed the m1 training, the dmv people spent about forty minutes on the phone talking to the main office while i sat in the waiting room, till they call me over and tell me i have to go drive around the block, which i do. finally when i get my paper license, it lists me as both class c and m1, so i can now legally drive a car, even though i've no idea how to.

ofblong · #48 Unread post by **ofblong** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:50 pm

Ivan M wrote:Now you're arguing semantics, which is funny, because you clearly lack reading comprehension skills and the ability to spell. Your statistic is startling. If 80% of accidents occur at low speed, then I'm sure at least 35% of those accidents occur while weaving through cones at 5 km/hr.

I'd been pretty clear about in which context I was referring to "slow speeds." No, I'm not talking about regular commuting speeds of 30 mph or 50 km/h. If you want to continue to argue points that I didn't make, perhaps you should just slowly "ride" away.

no but those 35% could have been avoided by learning to weave through cones at 5km/hr because weaving teaches you to maneuver away from a possible "accident". If you can learn the control at slow speed then high speed weaving is very easy as it will also help you get out of an accident situation be it slow or fast.

as for my reading comprehension you never stated regular commuting or regular driving you just made blatent statements about regular riding which to someone that rides on say the new jersey turnpike during rush hour traffic slow speeds of 1-2mph (yes it can go that slow) is common place and thus thought of as regular everyday riding. So its your typing skills that need practice not my reading.

ofblong · #49 Unread post by **ofblong** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:51 pm

storysunfolding wrote:
ofblong wrote:Course she weighs 240lbs.
You're a dipshit for putting that on the internet.

Wait... I can hear you getting your butt kicked from all the way down here in Va

hehe well she doesnt care if others know BUT she is losing weight cause she used to weigh quite a bit more.

Ivan M · #50 Unread post by **Ivan M** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:02 am

Weaving at 5 km/h is nothing like weaving at 50 km/h. You're not counter-steering, for starters. As for 35% of accidents being avoidable due to 5 km/h cone weaving abilities, well that's an interesting idea. Did you know that 45% of accidents can be avoided by wearing a pink helmet and dressing like a sexy girl? Now you know.