slow drivers

[blues2cruise]

Well said, CNF2002.

[Kal]

Just a couple of days ago I was doing 15mph in a 30 mph zone, go ahead hate me...




















Of course it was near a school and there were young children all over the place.

I also tend to ride under the limit when road conditions are unfavourable, when there may be a problem with my bike or any number of other reasons.

Bite me.

I usually ride at the speed limit, if you have got a problem with that you can suck my **** until the law is changed to a higher speed limit. You hadnt thought about that? I mean all you good people are voters right? Laws are the democratic consensus for acceptable behaviour in our societies, so if a law is no longer the consensus lobby to have it changed...

Until then stay off of my rear wheel, and stop acting like spolit children.

When I took my driving theory in November passing on the left in the UK was still illegal.

[ZooTech]

I'm not advocating the removal of speed limits, but I do believe slow drivers doing stupid stuff like braking on the freeway and merging too slow cause far more accidents than speeders simply losing control of their vehicle. It's almost as though our speed limits are set so low just to accomodate all the morons on the road who are begging to be rear-ended otherwise.

And who hits those slow drivers? The ones behind them driving too fast!

You don't have to be speeding at all to rearend someone merging at 45mph. And there's not a vehicle on the road that can't burn off 65mph on today's off-ramps. My post was not intended to justify speeding.

[Ninja Geoff]

I'm not advocating the removal of speed limits, but I do believe slow drivers doing stupid stuff like braking on the freeway and merging too slow cause far more accidents than speeders simply losing control of their vehicle. It's almost as though our speed limits are set so low just to accomodate all the morons on the road who are begging to be rear-ended otherwise.

And who hits those slow drivers? The ones behind them driving too fast!

You don't have to be speeding at all to rearend someone merging at 45mph. And there's not a vehicle on the road that can't burn off 65mph on today's off-ramps. My post was not intended to justify speeding.

What about the offramps that you just plain can't go above 40 mph on or you slide/roll off into a cliff face. READ: Absolutly NO room to decelerate from 65 to a safe speed, often the speed limit on these is 25 mph. BTW, there are also ON-ramps like this, and no, not all vehicles are capable of accelerating to the posted speed limit in a case like this. Besides, there are some that are just plain sketchy and would require a lot of pedal to the floor driving to be able to come close to 65 mph once on the highway. Besides, who ever hits someone merging onto the highway at a legal speed (45 IS the minimum) should probably NOT be driving. You should ALWAYS be looking out for that kind of situation, far enough ahead that you have plenty of room to get yourself out of harms way. That's what Driver's Ed is for. Motorcycle riders, of all people, should be well aware of this. So, getting pissed off at grandpa going 45 or 50 when getting onto the highway because they're puting YOU in danger, should really re-evaluate their observation skills and think ahead better.

On another note about burning off 65 mph on a highway off ramp, what if there's a brake blow-out by a car? Now, let's give this car the best situation, and say it's a manual transmission, with a hand brake. Now, if he waited until the very top of the off ramp to slow down, and at 60 mph, the brake pedal hits the floor, will that be enough room to NOT rearend the cars stopped at the bottom. Now same situation, but the driver decides to slow down gradually by taking his foot off the accelerator. He's doing 55 when he hits the brakes and they blow out at 50 mph. Tell me, who's going to have a better chance of stopping. What if by slowing down that 10 mph BEFORE the offramp, and slowing you down a few seconds, he saves the life of a young child sitting in the back seat of the car he DOESN'T end up actually hitting.
/rant

[BuzZz]

Everybody should ride/drive exactly like me. Anyone who doesn't is a complete idiot or an ignorant assshole.


That, or words to that effect are about what I got out of this thread.

[Dirtytoes]

Everybody should ride/drive exactly like me. Anyone who doesn't is a complete idiot or an ignorant assshole.


That, or words to that effect are about what I got out of this thread.

haha, i totally forgot about this thread.

anyway, i don't only hate slow drivers as a rider, but as a driver as well......i try to drive my 95 civic at night since i'm on a rider's permit and slow drivers P*I*S*S me off. they are the cause of all traffic.

if they are driving at speed limit, i guess you can't be mad at em but 99% are always at LEAST 10mph under the limit.....i think slow drivers should get a HUGE ticket so next time they're driving theyll remember to pop it out of D3.

[ZooTech]

What about the offramps that you just plain can't go above 40 mph on or you slide/roll off into a cliff face. READ: Absolutly NO room to decelerate from 65 to a safe speed, often the speed limit on these is 25 mph. BTW, there are also ON-ramps like this, and no, not all vehicles are capable of accelerating to the posted speed limit in a case like this. Besides, there are some that are just plain sketchy and would require a lot of pedal to the floor driving to be able to come close to 65 mph once on the highway.

Those are exceptions, not the norm. I thought it was safe to speak in general terms. You can throw "what-ifs" at this all day and find a reason to justify braking while still on the freeway, but in general it's bad form and should be frowned upon.

Besides, who ever hits someone merging onto the highway at a legal speed (45 IS the minimum) should probably NOT be driving. You should ALWAYS be looking out for that kind of situation, far enough ahead that you have plenty of room to get yourself out of harms way. That's what Driver's Ed is for. Motorcycle riders, of all people, should be well aware of this.

Excuse me?! I'm not worried about hitting these jerks, I'm usually stuck behind them on the on-ramp. Do you have any idea how many times I've had to merge behind one of these numb-nuts while watching semis perform evasive maneuvers in my rear-view mirror? You're essentially asking everyone in the right-most lane to drive 45mph just to be prepared for someone legally (sic) merging at that speed, and to me that's unreasonable. The safest way to merge onto a freeway is to match speed with traffic by the time your left blinker comes on.

So, getting pissed off at grandpa going 45 or 50 when getting onto the highway because they're puting YOU in danger, should really re-evaluate their observation skills and think ahead better.

Maybe grandpa should hang up his driving hat or only travel on two-lane roads. A 20mph difference is huge, especially during morning rush hour when traffic is simply too tight to accomodate semis swerving into the passing lane to avoid them.

On another note about burning off 65 mph on a highway off ramp, what if there's a brake blow-out by a car? Now, let's give this car the best situation, and say it's a manual transmission, with a hand brake. Now, if he waited until the very top of the off ramp to slow down, and at 60 mph, the brake pedal hits the floor, will that be enough room to NOT rearend the cars stopped at the bottom. Now same situation, but the driver decides to slow down gradually by taking his foot off the accelerator. He's doing 55 when he hits the brakes and they blow out at 50 mph. Tell me, who's going to have a better chance of stopping. What if by slowing down that 10 mph BEFORE the offramp, and slowing you down a few seconds, he saves the life of a young child sitting in the back seat of the car he DOESN'T end up actually hitting.
/rant

Wow, a remote and unlikely "what-if". We could come up with these for the next twenty pages if we wanted to. Fact of the matter is, the Department of Transportation designs off-ramps with adequate length to decelerate a moving vehicle to a stop (or slow enough to handle the clover-leaf) without having to brake on the freeway. Semis generally travel in the right-most lane and it's simply common sense and courtesy to avoid any behavior that would cause them or anyone else to slow unnecessarily. After all, it's called a FREEway for a reason...so people can travel it freely, without traffic lights or intersections to worry about. And the on and off ramps are designed such that motorists can enter and exit said freeway without infringing upon the free movement of fellow motorists.

[CNF2002]

anyway, i don't only hate slow drivers as a rider, but as a driver as well......i try to drive my 95 civic at night since i'm on a rider's permit and slow drivers P*I*S*S me off. they are the cause of all traffic.

if they are driving at speed limit, i guess you can't be mad at em but 99% are always at LEAST 10mph under the limit.....i think slow drivers should get a HUGE ticket so next time they're driving theyll remember to pop it out of D3.

Ahhh...so its not really slow drivers that frustrates you, its that you have little knowledge of how traffic conditions work.

So 99% of 'slow' drivers are 10mph under the limit, and 1% is going the speed-limit? I think you're just stuck in heavy traffic congestion. I probably averaged 45 on the freeway to work this morning, with varying degrees of congestion, people merging, etc, but you don't hear me pissing and moaning about it. Thats traffic...deal with it

[Sev]

The only people who truely bother me are the people who go the same speed as the person right next to them in the passing lane. I call them pacers... in that they'll go 10 under at or 10 over if the person to their right is doing that speed. This makes it impossible to pass them, because one will change speed in order to match the others.

[Chris8187]

When I am on the freeway, I find some traffic patterns funny. Sometimes everyone will pile in the left lanes because they think those lanes automatically means they will be able to go faster, but when that happens the right lanes clear, so I take those and go right past them.