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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:41 am
by VermilionX
Sevulturus wrote:They can tell if you've installed something like that. Even if you remove it.
I'm impressed that this much got through to you.
Say, when you ride normally, what rev range are you in from 1st to 4th?
i push 1st up to maybe 6-9k rpm depending on the road. i don't push it though if there's cop cars around me or if traffic is congested of course.
cruising rpm for me is around 4-5k rpm.
also, there's no wire splicing involved on installing it so how can they tell?
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:45 am
by BuzZz
Sorry Dude.
To clear it up for you....
You can't kill yourself and rob me of the pleasure of killing you myself.
Get several knives and place them strategically about your person, your surroundings and anyplace else you can think of. Might want to consider a gun or 3 as well.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:52 am
by VermilionX
ZooTech wrote:Gotta agree here, Vermi. You're so wrapped up in making it to track days in the shortest amount of time possible that you're modding a brand new bike and likely voiding the warranty. I doubt any of the guys you'll meet on track day rode on the track until they had years of regular leisure riding and commuting under their belts. You're already behind the curve buying a liter bike for your whopping 120lb body, and now you've reversed the shift pattern adding to the process. Based on your weight and build, you definitely should have went with a 600, and you should've put 20k+ miles on it before even considering a mod or the thought of touching a knee on the ground.
Point being.....SLOW THE @#$* DOWN!!!
Your present mentality has already resulted in a crash - one with a very lucky outcome - and all you've taken from it is how to apply what happened to track days. Now, I've been on here several times defending folks who start out on liter bikes....but that's with the understanding that those folks are intelligent enough (and respectful enough of motorcycling in general) to putt around the cul-de-sac for several weeks before doing any "canyon carving". All I see from you so far is ammunition from the other side of the argument using your crippled (or lifeless) body as an example.
Your sensei would be ashamed!
well, the new shift pattern is about 75% fixed in my head right now... only a couple of more days and i won't have to think about it anymore.
regarding the TRE... like i said, once i install it, i'll be taking it easy and re-learn how to control the throttle.
i'll treat my bike as if i was riding it for the 1st time again.
and i gained back 5lbs since i started taking vitamins again.
i wanna go back to being 130lbs and then if i can, i would like to gain 10 more lbs distributed all over my body.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:30 am
by NorthernPete
Zoo actually is telling someone to be carefull? geeze, I'd take that one to heart Verm, because he is a fan of the darwin awards. *chuckles*
Its not hard to tell when you've done something too your bike. The dealers have computer reader gizmos that will tell them exactly how you've been running your bike. but maybe having the warrentee voided will make ya thinka bit more when you decide to do something else to the bike. GOod luck with it though, Id hate to have another statistic posted up on the board.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:32 am
by VermilionX
NorthernPete wrote:Zoo actually is telling someone to be carefull? geeze, I'd take that one to heart Verm, because he is a fan of the darwin awards. *chuckles*
Its not hard to tell when you've done something too your bike. The dealers have computer reader gizmos that will tell them exactly how you've been running your bike. but maybe having the warrentee voided will make ya thinka bit more when you decide to do something else to the bike. GOod luck with it though, Id hate to have another statistic posted up on the board.
yeah, i'll take it easy once i install it like what i did during the
earlier stages of riding my bike.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:45 am
by JCS
That is the point Verm. You can't relearn throttle control because you haven't learned it in the first place yet!
You have no earlier stages of riding to relate to because you ARE IN your early stages.
These people are trying to keep you alive and you seem to have a problem getting that through your head!
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:49 am
by VermilionX
JCS wrote:That is the point Verm. You can't relearn throttle control because you haven't learned it in the first place yet!
You have no earlier stages of riding to relate to because you ARE IN your early stages.
These people are trying to keep you alive and you seem to have a problem getting that through your head!
im sorry, but i don't think i have not learned throttle control... i was able to keep my bike under 6k rpm until i reached 600 miles.
also, i know im still in the early stages that's why i mentioned earlier.
like i said, i'll try it, if it proves that i can't control it w/ enough practice, i'll remove it.
i really appreciate the concern, but like i said before, eventhough i have the power, it doesn't mean i'll abuse it. im not as reckless as you guys think. i had so many chances to blast off up to 140mph or even more but i chose not to.
when i crashed, i crashed bec of practicing better cornering lines and hit some loose gravel. i didn't crash bec i lost control of the bike's power.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:54 am
by Jamers!
VermilionX wrote:JCS wrote:That is the point Verm. You can't relearn throttle control because you haven't learned it in the first place yet!
You have no earlier stages of riding to relate to because you ARE IN your early stages.
These people are trying to keep you alive and you seem to have a problem getting that through your head!
im sorry, but i don't think i have not learned throttle control... i was able to keep my bike under 6k rpm until i reached 600 miles.
also, i know im still in the early stages that's why i mentioned earlier.
like i said, i'll try it, if it proves that i can't control it w/ enough practice, i'll remove it.
ok so your gonna be safe, got it. my only question is. . . if you admit your still in your early stages. .. why are you messing with the bike at all? Its not gonna make it any safer, if anything it will only make it more dangerous. Why not just master your bike stock then tinker with it? Added speed or torque or watever will only make it more risky, which isnt someonething anyone needs. . . so why do it?
JWF
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:58 am
by VermilionX
JWF505 wrote:
ok so your gonna be safe, got it. my only question is. . . if you admit your still in your early stages. .. why are you messing with the bike at all? Its not gonna make it any safer, if anything it will only make it more dangerous. Why not just master your bike stock then tinker with it? Added speed or torque or watever will only make it more risky, which isnt someonething anyone needs. . . so why do it?
JWF
i just wanna feel how bike is w/o the mentally challenged limiter. it will make the FI smooth down low, and that's just what i wanna feel.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:17 am
by Sev
The mentally challenged limiter?
Throttle control is keeping it under 6000rpms...
Sorry bucko, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about anymore.
And here's a nifty little piece of advice that'll totally change the way your bike puts power to pavement without spending money on mods.
Stop riding below 9k. Your bike isn't meant to be there. If it feels sluggish at all (which I DOUBT IT COULD POSSIBLY) it's because you've got an engine that wants to be above 10k constantly. That's what an inline 4 does.
God, I feel soooooo sorry for your bike, it's gonna be a wreck by the time you're done.