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earwig wrote:Yo Ninja... I just have a few questions...

Many areas burn oil to create electricity, so what good is it to burn oil in once place instead of in your car?

Around here there are black outs, power outages and the electric companies BEGGING people to conserve energy... what would happen if everyone had to charge their cars every night?

Why do you say everyone says "THAT SUXORS!!!!111" but no one has even said that in this thread...

I have a few more questions but I'll stop here for now because this is really boring...

Actually, one could safely argue that it is easier to keep a single large fossil fuel burning area clean then many small ones. It's easier to install large filters and cleaning agents in a power plant then in every car on the road. Plus they can be far more efficient.

Additionally, there are multiple sources of electricity some of which are renewable, but only one source of non renewable oil.

I'm not currently in favour of Electric cars, they don't really have a place in society yet, but I do realise that it's not an impossible proposition.

earwig wrote:Yo Ninja... I just have a few questions...

Many areas burn oil to create electricity, so what good is it to burn oil in once place instead of in your car?

Efficiency. Let me say that again: efficiency. It is much much more efficient to burn oil at a (large) powerplant than in your car's (tiny) engine. Even after you account for losses in transmission, AC->DC conversion, charging losses, etc. electric cars are still much more efficient than gasoline cars. Get it? Efficiency alone is enough to make it a win. Is this horse dead yet? (This stupid counter-argument keeps coming up every time).

Besides that, much of electricity comes from cleaner sources (nuclear, hydro, wind). Also, it is much easier to manage pollution coming from 1000 power plants than from 10000000 cars. Finally, if we must pollute, it's better to do it away from densely populated areas. Is that enough reasons for you?

Around here there are black outs, power outages and the electric companies BEGGING people to conserve energy... what would happen if everyone had to charge their cars every night?

That's the problem with your electric companies. The only answer is that you need more power plants and better management.

Why do you say everyone says "THAT SUXORS!!!!111" but no one has even said that in this thread...

I guess you missed all the posts by black mariah. BTW, is there a way I can filter him out? That would certainly improve signal/noise ratio.

Sevulturus wrote: Actually, one could safely argue that it is easier to keep a single large fossil fuel burning area clean then many small ones. It's easier to install large filters and cleaning agents in a power plant then in every car on the road. Plus they can be far more efficient.

I hear you... but there are many fossil fuel burning plants, everywhere... even with the scrubbers and filters they are NOT clean or good for the environment. I think my gripe isn't so much about the environment anyway, it's about giving all of our money to the stinking middle east and relying on people who want us dead so we can heat our homes and drive our cars etc.

ninja79 wrote:That's the problem with your electric companies. The only answer is that you need more power plants and better management.

File this under "No "poo poo"". Priced a power plant lately? More importantly, have you tried to get a power plant past the millions of psycho envoronmentalists? "OMG! NUCLEAR! NO, NOT COAL! No, not wind power either... it messes up the landscape..... Solar? That's better, but it might cause some microbes in the desert to die. Hydroelectric? You mean build a DAM?"

Politics is what is destroying the environment, and it's the fault of the people that are supposedly trying to save it.