When is a crash a crash?

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norcal · #1 Unread post by **norcal** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:49 am

Pretty simply I would think, however my bestfriend and I have a difference of opinion. He has 2 seperate crashes that he claims weren't really crashes. He thinks that to be a full legit crash both the bike and the rider must go down and make contact with the pavement.

Crash one....he is clipping along at a meager 60mph when a deer comes charging hard out of the brush and head first into his front wheel. Both him and bike go flying...he lands, tucks and rolls and his bike lands on the deer. Not a freaking scratch on the bike. It is literally perfect....Deer is eFed up but the bike survived (still running even)...he grabs the bike stands it up, jumps on and off he goes.......he feels because the bike never hit the ground no crash here.

Crash two...During a Formula Pacific race with the AFM at Sears Point he is in the lead on what I believe to be lap 2 and at 3A he highsides....he and the bike again go flying he hits first and the bike lands on him...they both slide down towards 4, he kicks the bike off around 5 mph. No damage to bike other than a minor scrub on the handlebar...looks like it scrubed a wall at 5-7mph. Again he claims no crash, however he did get a hairline fracture of his femur in this so called non-crash...

So would you consider either a crash...He doesn't on either...I disagree and say yea those are both crashes simply due to coming off the bike on both occasions.

PS---on crash two...he limped back to the pits during the red flag borrowed a 600cc bike with 105hp (going from the 180hp 1000cc) and made it to the start line to finish the race and keep himself in points contention, continued to finish the year with the #3 plate..read all about it and see the pictures of the SO CALLED not crash here --->
www.southbayriders.com...hp?t=33418

norcal

Johnj · #2 Unread post by **Johnj** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:13 am

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So much for your link. both are crashes, lucky as h@&& crashes but crashes neverless.

norcal · #3 Unread post by **norcal** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:42 pm

here is the link...sorry 'bout that.

http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/sh ... hp?t=33418

norcal

Shorts · #4 Unread post by **Shorts** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:07 pm

Ahh, good pics. Though I must say, they were crashes. I think his pride (ego?) won't let him call them that. It seems to me that if he stops, then he considers he crashed out, which he doesn't want to do. Heck even when in the ambulance he didn't want to be strapped in. He looks to be a real competitor regardless.

Maybe he needs to have his own code word for this crashes so they don't sound so bad.

- stopped for coffee
- stopped to tie a shoe
- my contact fell out

Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:40 pm

Crashes. Both.

(However, seeing as he is your best friend, let him call them whatever he wants... no use getting him all worked up if he doesn't think they are... the guy obviously has his own definitions, really fortunate he was alright in both cases)

lunchmeat · #6 Unread post by **lunchmeat** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:07 pm

Shorts wrote:Maybe he needs to have his own code word for this crashes so they don't sound so bad.

- stopped for coffee
- stopped to tie a shoe
- my contact fell out

Haha, nice.

"Well, y'see, I cra-- ...I uh, I had an itch. So I stopped, laid my bike down on a deer, and scratched it."

Apollofrost · Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:11 pm

Oh... so instead of saying crash he could say something like:

The street decided to give me a hug.

I decided to embrace my inner roadkill.

My bike tried to hump my leg.

norcal · #8 Unread post by **norcal** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:25 pm

Those are all freaking hillarious....I think I need to use some of those on him next time the topic comes up.

norcal

jonnythan · #9 Unread post by **jonnythan** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:05 pm

He's nuts.

If you unintentionally *fall off of the freakin motorcycle* while it's moving it's a crash.

KingRobb · #10 Unread post by **KingRobb** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:48 pm

really...anytime the bike lands with you off of it (even landing on local flora or fauna) or if the bike ends up riding you...it is a crash.

sounds like a real deal rider though....now if he can just get real