Muffler Heat and Ethanol

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Muffler Heat and Ethanol

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Had a strange experience yesterday--did a nice 60 miles through the country but was noticing an uncomfortable amount of heat rising from the muffler and par-roasting my left butt cheek. I had on jeans so it wasn't painful, but still noticeable.

I'm trying to figure out why this hasn't happened before. Here's my theory. I normally use only Shell premium gas which, I think, is not blended with ethanol (at least in my area). Over the weekend I rode to visit my kid at college and had to refuel at a convenience store where the pump was marked 10% ethanol.

Is it possible that the fuel was making my muffler produce more heat than usual?

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Do you have a cat?
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HYPERR wrote:Do you have a cat?
Are you hinting that he might not have a cat anymore??? Maybe it climbed into his exhaust... :shock: :shock: :shock:






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HYPERR wrote:Do you have a cat?
Perhaps HYPERR is referring to this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26525157/?GT1=43001

I can imagine going 70 miles with a cat on the spare in a pickup truck. It's harder to imagine having a stowaway cat on my bike. :laughing:

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Re: Muffler Heat and Ethanol

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RockBottom wrote:Had a strange experience yesterday--did a nice 60 miles through the country but was noticing an uncomfortable amount of heat rising from the muffler and par-roasting my left butt cheek. I had on jeans so it wasn't painful, but still noticeable.

I'm trying to figure out why this hasn't happened before. Here's my theory. I normally use only Shell premium gas which, I think, is not blended with ethanol (at least in my area). Over the weekend I rode to visit my kid at college and had to refuel at a convenience store where the pump was marked 10% ethanol.

Is it possible that the fuel was making my muffler produce more heat than usual?
[snarky comment] Hard to tell, was this on a motorcycle? [/snarky comment]

What kind of motorcycle?

Fuel injected or carbureted?

A carbed bike probably would have little difference, though still alittle. A fuel injected bike, especially a newer closed loop ECU type, might have an issue, at least for a short time, until the ECU compensated for the different fuel. You need a little extra fuel with ethanol (mixture) and you may have been running a little leaner which might account for a slightly hotter exhaust temp.
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Re: Muffler Heat and Ethanol

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mydlyfkryzis wrote:
RockBottom wrote:Had a strange experience yesterday--did a nice 60 miles through the country but was noticing an uncomfortable amount of heat rising from the muffler and par-roasting my left butt cheek. I had on jeans so it wasn't painful, but still noticeable.

I'm trying to figure out why this hasn't happened before. Here's my theory. I normally use only Shell premium gas which, I think, is not blended with ethanol (at least in my area). Over the weekend I rode to visit my kid at college and had to refuel at a convenience store where the pump was marked 10% ethanol.

Is it possible that the fuel was making my muffler produce more heat than usual?
[snarky comment] Hard to tell, was this on a motorcycle? [/snarky comment]

What kind of motorcycle?

Fuel injected or carbureted?

A carbed bike probably would have little difference, though still alittle. A fuel injected bike, especially a newer closed loop ECU type, might have an issue, at least for a short time, until the ECU compensated for the different fuel. You need a little extra fuel with ethanol (mixture) and you may have been running a little leaner which might account for a slightly hotter exhaust temp.
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#9 Unread post by xyz »

I don't like ethanol either. My dealer told me to try and use as little as possible in the bike when I bought it. My local 7-11 has gas that isn't blended and so that's where I fuel up.

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#10 Unread post by MMO »

Just use the fuel you've been using previously, that outta solve the problem.

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