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I just got done reading a great tour article in this months Motor Cyclist regarding a trip through China. I don't know if anyone else had a chance to read it, but it was very interesting. Not so much for the motorcycle part of the story (because I just can't see being on the road with the ruleless driving in that country myself) but more about where China is going in the future.

I think the western world better be ready for this up and coming economy. I've said it before, but the writer of the article said it better. To paraphrase - teach your kids Chinese, invest in things China will need, and be ready because all those people want the same cars, bikes and refrigerators we have. They are building more schools and advancing their growth. For example the writer mentions they have a Maglev train to and from the airport. We said we would have that from LA to Vegas 10 years ago, yet we don't even have a useful high-speed rail system here.

I don't want to predict our demise, and I don't claim to understand the whole of world economics, but it doesn't take a genius to see - we keep buying more and more from the Chinese - the most successful business in the US, Wal-Mart, has no issue with buying from China, and killing US companies that can't compete with Chinese prices - and because we value our own saving over our loyalty to our country, I'd say the conclusion is quite obvious and unstoppable.

It makes me think of the Matrix cartoon from the Anamatrix where the machines were shunned from the society of man, but yet they were much better than us at manufacturing. They stayed in their own country, and made things for mankind. So we kept buying from them, until we realized they held all the cards. We tried to stop the machines, but it was too late.

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Another thing Americans fail to realize is that they are also very quietly building up their military. The Chinese Govt is acting as if they are preparing for war, but since they are doing it quietly it gets no press.
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Its true...Americans are buying more and producing less. Once we're completely dependent on imports for all our goods and our economy is in the wastebasket because we have no jobs to give to our overcrowded population, things will be great I bet. :evil:

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bennettoid wrote:Another thing Americans fail to realize is that they are also very quietly building up their military. The Chinese Govt is acting as if they are preparing for war, but since they are doing it quietly it gets no press.
Like I said before, I can't claim to be an expert on the topic, but I don't think what is happening will require a military to defeat us. Once they are established as the primary economy in the world and their "communist" government is not longer relevant, we will be a territory of the Republic of China. We are steps away from being their slaves right now. They are learning to be the ultimate capitalists right under our noses. Communism is failing as is their socialism. When Chinese people can get jobs doing what they want, and buying products they want, how can they be in a communist socialist country? Research it yourself. They now have options they never had before. The Chinese government can't keep the world away from its citizens (though they do try), so they slowly are giving them what they want, and what of course will benefit the government. That is why they are working with companies through out the world from free countries. And companies of the world (in general) have only their own survival in mind, so they don't care who they work for, but only how to do it with the most profit. China seems to have learned with their re-acquisition of Hong Kong that capitalism pays off. Only a matter of time until they stop hiding the fact they are doing it right now.
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with such earth shaking events like the vice president not calling a press conference and apologizing to the civilized world for a hunting accident immediately after it happened,who cares about our doomed economy???
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scanevalexec wrote:I just got done reading a great tour article in this months Motor Cyclist regarding a trip through China.
Five to eight years ago I was working with an Italian consultant (and a friend) who works with various chemical companies with similar processes throughout the world. After one of his excursions to China he returned with eyes opened wide. He said suddenly they have had a taste. They get it. Watch out, they are going to be leading the world shortly.
The change to the work ethic and drive that he witnessed while working there over a few short years was difficult to comprehend. The long and the short of it is: They want it more than anyone else right now. They will work smarter and harder than anyone else at the moment and their lives are changing. Can't blame them for doing what they do.

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The one thing I see that they lack badly , is some form of quality control . If all of their products are like the ones that come thru our warehouse for assembly .........well I really don't want to get started on this . However , as I said they lack quality control .
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Regarding the Wal-Mart - China link: As long as a majority of Americans will drive across town to save 30 cents on a box of breakfast cereal, instead of ahopping at their own local grocery store, then we deserve what we get. We may be a culture that values low prices over ever other value, such as loyalty to American brands, loyalty to our local grocery, and loyalty to our nation. We are fools who will spend 40 cents in gasoline in order to save 30 cents at the cash register/ checkstand.

For Canadians... its the same... what loyalty do you have to Canada? Is it worth that extra 30 cents? :?

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I dont know about anyone else but I try my best to shop at local stores. The local hardware store, restaurants owned by local private people. MY problem is the opposite, I have so many large corporate stores that I DONT want to shop at (Home Depot, Walmart, etc) but I would have to drive across town just to find a local business.
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jackM50black wrote:Regarding the Wal-Mart - China link: As long as a majority of Americans will drive across town to save 30 cents on a box of breakfast cereal, instead of ahopping at their own local grocery store, then we deserve what we get. We may be a culture that values low prices over ever other value, such as loyalty to American brands, loyalty to our local grocery, and loyalty to our nation. We are fools who will spend 40 cents in gasoline in order to save 30 cents at the cash register/ checkstand.

For Canadians... its the same... what loyalty do you have to Canada? Is it worth that extra 30 cents? :?
I am Canadian...born and raised in Vancouver. I have seen so many changes happen to our city it's crazy. Most of the properties here are now owned by off shore interests. Sad. But our government has allowed it to happen..in fact even encouraged it.
I and a lot of my friends try very hard to support local businesses and try very hard to buy Canadian products.
We don't shop at places like Wal-mart because of them being American. Why should I spend my hard earned dollars so that the profits can leave my country?

It's not always easy, but mostly we manage to support local first and then Canadian second. Only if I can't find something I need North American made will I then buy something from China.
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