Must admit: curious to see who wins the 1000/600 cc comparos

[VermilionX]

Why do you care?

You can't ride it properly anyway.

what a very relevant contribution to argument.

you're the best minty.




anyway... i believe i have said my point.

it's either test rider not good enough for the gixxer1k.

and/or

the testing track is just not meant for a superbike to shine.


im going to sleep now as well. i'll check back on this tomorrow before i go to work.

[Mintbread]

Your point is irrelevant because you know nothing about bikes.

[Kal]

Why do you care?

You can't ride it properly anyway.

what a very relevant contribution to argument.

you're the best minty.




anyway... i believe i have said my point.

it's either test rider not good enough for the gixxer1k.

and/or

the testing track is just not meant for a superbike to shine.


im going to sleep now as well. i'll check back on this tomorrow before i go to work.

A superbike did shine - the 750

[Koss]

If a guy is qualified to be a professional racer, and qualified enough to be a big time motorcycle journalist... and he isn't good enough to use the gsxr to its full abilities... then who is this motorcycle really for to begin with? Also... if these are just street bikes... why would it matter if it was on a superbike level race track? These bikes are factory racers or even being modified by professionals... so why would that be relevant? And even then... I would have to think that they would have had to give more to make that old yamaha get around, with the old beat up suspension thats weathered all those years of normal road use.

Why would a professional motojournalist and experienced racer be wrong when it comes to your educated guess?

[Kal]

If a guy is qualified to be a professional racer, and qualified enough to be a big time motorcycle journalist... and he isn't good enough to use the gsxr to its full abilities... then who is this motorcycle really for to begin with? Also... if these are just street bikes... why would it matter if it was on a superbike level race track? These bikes are factory racers or even being modified by professionals... so why would that be relevant? And even then... I would have to think that they would have had to give more to make that old yamaha get around, with the old beat up suspension thats weathered all those years of normal road use.

Why would a professional motojournalist and experienced racer be wrong when it comes to your educated guess?

Thats beautiful... All of it...

[Koss]

If a guy is qualified to be a professional racer, and qualified enough to be a big time motorcycle journalist... and he isn't good enough to use the gsxr to its full abilities... then who is this motorcycle really for to begin with? Also... if these are just street bikes... why would it matter if it was on a superbike level race track? These bikes are factory racers or even being modified by professionals... so why would that be relevant? And even then... I would have to think that they would have had to give more to make that old yamaha get around, with the old beat up suspension thats weathered all those years of normal road use.

Why would a professional motojournalist and experienced racer be wrong when it comes to your educated guess?

Thats beautiful... All of it...

And ive barely put 2,000 miles on my first street bike today... gotta give it to ya guys for giving me advice to keep my young testrostrone laiden body alive and thinking straight!

[camthepyro]

To tell the truth, I pretty much agree with Verm on this one. Given a racetrack ideal for both bikes, the same rider who is unbiased, and who doesn't get tired or anything, the gixxer1000 should be able to beat the YZf750 without any question. The only way I would think the YZF would stand a chance is in the corners possibly.

[JCS]

Another point to consider.

When the magazines and testers (who are used to jumping on another bike and getting up to speed quickly) hail "monumental" improvements, many times the changed are incremental. A lot of the time these "improvements" are so minute that normal riders on the streets can detect no change at all.

Yes, the new bikes are better. But the differences can be very small. It might surprise many of you just how competent some of the older bikes were.

Yes, Verm, your bike is better than mine. Your bike is faster than mine. I ride older bikes. But I will say this. I would lay money that if went to a track you may not be as far ahead as you might think, if at all.

Lets go one better. Let's race. I'll even use my wife's bike so you won't think I have an unfair advantage from engine size. But let's make it interesting. No drag strip. No road course. Let's go across 2 or 3 states and see how you come out.

The point is, Verm, is that you have no clue what most of these bikes are capable of doing. You have no clue what a good rider can do and how they can adapt to different bikes. If you could manage to peek outside of your own little myopic world, you might actually learn something. I could say something about giving terrible advice to noobs on the board but I won't go there.

PS.
I do not endorse street racing in any way. Just trying to demonstrate a point. I do not try to get my knee down on the streets/canyons/whatever. It's not about riding on the edge all the time.

[Sev]

How much would the 13 year old 750 have spanked YOUR 750 by?

the GSX-R750 K6 could only be spanked by the older 750 bike if the rider didn't know how to fully use new gixxer750.

Why?

bec the new gixxer is just plain better than the old R7.

so it just depends on rider skill if he can make better use of the better bike.

How do you know it's better?

[VermilionX]

How do you know it's better?

and you're telling me i don't know anything about bikes.

technology is way better on new bikes.

the hardware is better. perhaps the tester needed a software upgrade.