NEWBIE here im young and my parents think im dumb. HELP

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#41 Unread post by kellanv »

I just have a quick thing to throw in here...

PLEASE be careful if choosing to ride. I wanted to ride at your age too and was pissed that the parents wouldnt let me buy a street bike instead of a car. Its probably for the best looking back on things.

Secondly, about the ADD thing...

This needs to be STRONGLY considered when choosing to ride. Now, I'm not sure to what extent your case is etc, but if it is relatively severe and left unaided it can easily cause problems with paying attention to the tiny details that are involved in riding(looking for gravel, slick surfaces etc) Coupled with the young age and lack of real experience driving any motor vehicle on public roads, this could possibly be hazardous.

The reason I raise caution on this subject is I have a close that has ADHD but really wants to learn to ride. I have taught her off and on for the last few months, and am making sure she takes a riding course before she even thinks about riding on the streets. One thing during our discussions that she has raised concerning her attention span and riding is that she sometimes has a hard time concentrating on riding itself: her thoughts etc tend to "fill up the helmet" She can drive OK but motorcycling has a bit more to think about than cars tend to so we are taking extra time and precaution as she learns.

By the way, I am in NO WAY saying that anyone with ADD or ADHD shouldnt be able to ride, but rather should take extra care to make sure the focus is being placed on riding and not on other stuff, ESPECIALLY when there is a lack of experience such as this case.


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#42 Unread post by Wrider »

I've got a diagnosed case of Mild ADD, I don't take medication for it, and I'm fine out on the roads. I think it has to do with the fact that when I like something, I DIVE into it. Before last August, I'd never ridden anything motorized with less than 3 wheels. Before I had to sell my bike in early April, even with the Colorado snowstorms this winter, I put on over 3800 miles. I literally more than doubled the miles on the bike's odometer. A lot of people with ADD do the same thing...
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#43 Unread post by orc4hire »

gfisha32188 wrote: I went threw 6th-8th grade never having english class. I basicly tought my self. Creative righting does not require good spelling or grammer. That is what a editor is for.

No. Absolutely not. If your spelling and grammar are bad, what an editor is going to do is toss your work right back at you. This is not theory; I count among my personal friends professional writers and editors (yes, including a poetry editor), I've gotten paid for my own writing more than once, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that that is the case.

Pick up a paperback AMERICAN HERITAGE dictionary and a copy of Strunk & White's ELEMENTS OF STYLE. (This will do in a pinch as a dictionary, but it's no substitute for a real, paper, one. You can find a very old edition of ELEMENTS OF STYLE free online here). Learn to use the former and read the latter.


Learn to use the language properly, or forget about writing anything other people will want to read. Period.
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#44 Unread post by storysunfolding »

kellanv wrote:Secondly, about the ADD thing...

Blah blah blah ignorant mumbo jumbo
It's nice that you are concerned, but I find your lack of knowledge and propogation of stereotypes to be mildly offensive.
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#45 Unread post by dean owens »

Wrider wrote:I've got a diagnosed case of Mild ADD, I don't take medication for it, and I'm fine out on the roads. I think it has to do with the fact that when I like something, I DIVE into it. ... A lot of people with ADD do the same thing...
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this trips me out. one of the guys i work with has add and took meds for it for a while. he made a similar comment after another one of my co-workers joked that he wouldn't be able to focus in on the meeting. to which i say, shoot, i have a hard time focusing on things i don't like too. but i can zero right into hero's or an nba game - oddly enough i have a hard time listening to the new recipe that my wife found. hmmmm.
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#46 Unread post by storysunfolding »

dean owens wrote:but i can zero right into hero's or an nba game - oddly enough i have a hard time listening to the new recipe that my wife found. hmmmm.
Sounds like you're a guy :laughing:
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#47 Unread post by BlueBomber »

xb12rMatt wrote:First things first, do not finance a bike. Save up for it and then buy it.

ook at something like the SV 650 or Ninja 650R or the ninja/gs 500 as a first bike.


Insurance for a brand new 16 year old on a CBR 600 will be over $1,000 a year.
if by over 1000 you mean SEVERAL TIMES OVER, then yes, over 1000 (also I left in the key info that i truly believe myself)

at age 16 on a 600cc sportbike, that's financed, needing full coverage etc: he'd be lucky to get it under like 2300, if they'll even take the risk for that money.

The good money says "that bike will not be paid for before it needs more money into it to make it look new, than it cost to buy outright"

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#48 Unread post by intotherain »

Holy damn insurance for a 03 CBR 600 would be 3,400 for me...
03 XB9R would be around there..
03 SV650S= $2,000...
06 chinese 200cc = $250 full coverage.

So expensive.

Insurance for you, gfisha, would be higher than mine.
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#49 Unread post by kellanv »

I meant absolutely NO disrespect to anyone, and I dont mean to stereotype at all...it was actually the opposite since I have had recent experience with a couple certain circumstances....

I tried to state that I did NOT say ADD or ADHD is a SOLE PROBLEM or even a MAJOR problem at all. I meant that coupled with inexperience, and being very young for a rider, that it COULD become an issue.

And I'm not stating this from completely my own point of views either. Like I said, depends on severity. The friend I mentioned in the first post is actually my long term girlfriend, and has a relatively strong case of ADHD and I do not see it as a major problem at all, however, SHE is actually the one that brought up the focus thing. Wasnt me. I would have never thought about it, but for her, it DID make a difference. It just takes her a little more focus, and given that she is considerable older than the OP, she has more experience to build on.

I dont know the OP. I dont know his history. I can only go by his typing and what he says. He's young, and rather scattered with a rather LARGE difference between his "focused" and regular posts. I cant make total assumptions hence the reason I was basically giving a message of "know thyself" when it comes to how you act under certain types of circumstances.

Again, I appologize for any sense of "bashing" that I might have conveyed, but it is actual a personal subject for me, and the subject of some recent discussions etc.

Best of luck to whatever you decide.

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#50 Unread post by intotherain »

hey gfisha, a sv650/ninja650/cbr600 or any other sport bike will cost you over 3000 per year to insure with minimum coverage. Unless your willing to fork that out I'd recommend you buy a smaller bike such as a ninja 250r.
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