Intro, thoughts and first bike alternatives discussion.

[TorontoBoy]

... The post like these is what I'm trying to elaborate on. What did you learn on? How was it? That helps. And apparently those double discs on the F don't grab THAT great.

It is frustrating because you can't discuss this with anybody on the forums as you throat gets jumped more or less right away. It's like an On/Off switch. For example, you completely disregarded the fact I stated I'd take one of the learner bikes and gave me more or less the same automatic reply a 16 year old with an R1 would get. I also left room for perhaps getting a different bike once we're through with the course.
You did contribute with some other examples of beginner bikes, so thumbs up for that and thank you...

You ask for an opinion on this forum and people give it to you. You don't like it, and take out your frustrations here? Look in the mirror for who needs the attitude adjustment. You don't mind disagreement provided it jives with what you're thinking. That's not how it works.

Look, I don't want any new biker to splat themselves on a guard rail or a soccer mom's bumper. However it's your life. Do what the f*ck you want. Just don't ask for an opinion, people give you one, you don't like it and you tell us "gave me more or less the same automatic reply a 16 year old with an R1 would get". If you don't like the answer that much don't ask the question. You come across like an arrogant SOB when you write with such a condescending tone. These are not "automatic responses". We take the time to write our opinions so newbys don't splat. You should appreciate that, though I see you don't. Why don't you simply find a forum that agrees with your opinion and be done with it.

nup, i live in my world, and you're a guest in it so back in ya box.

LOL!

[Batan]

One thing I did not make clear in my previous post, I said "WORST case scenario" meaning for first bike is to buy another bike that is small. I meant that as the worst case because of the buying and hassle involoved. By no means I meant that was the worst solution for the first bike. That's my bad, I did not make it clear enough.

Take a flying fu.k at a rolling donut num nuts

Well, I'm glad you showed me you are an adult. In the future, try not to take things out of context though.

[Batan]

You ask for an opinion on this forum and people give it to you. You don't like it, and take out your frustrations here? Look in the mirror for who needs the attitude adjustment. You don't mind disagreement provided it jives with what you're thinking. That's not how it works.

Opinion backed up by experience is important, opinion w/o mentioning anything else is not. Might as well be written by somebody w/o driver's license. And once and for all, the 750F is NOT the only subject in this thread. I was hoping to gather somewhat of a list of alternative learner bikes for future references for other people as well. And to bring the issue of lack of beginner bikes up too, it comes up, it hasn't only been a problem for me alone.
And I was expecting negative opinions on the bike, but flamewar is not a constructive way of discussion.
I'm trying to calm this whole thing down, so I won't comment on most of your post.(and yes, your reply did sound automatic and you quoted just a part of my post above disregarding the rest).

[shane-o]

Opinion backed up by experience is important,

I once poured honey all over my self, whilst naked, then ran into a well known lesbian bar and demanded a good licking. You see I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body, its hell.



So now you know I have experience.



Girls like guys with skills.

[Batan]

I once poured honey all over my self, whilst naked, then ran into a well known lesbian bar and demanded a good licking.

I don't think there's a bike on the market that's that dangerous.

[storysunfolding]

Well, I'm glad you showed me you are an adult.

Even better- he's an aussie

[Johnj]

Well, I'm glad you showed me you are an adult.

Even better- he's an aussie

So true.

[matthew5656]

You ask for an opinion on this forum and people give it to you. You don't like it, and take out your frustrations here? Look in the mirror for who needs the attitude adjustment. You don't mind disagreement provided it jives with what you're thinking. That's not how it works.

I was hoping to gather somewhat of a list of alternative learner bikes for future references for other people as well. And to bring the issue of lack of beginner bikes up too, it comes up, it hasn't only been a problem for me alone.
And I was expecting negative opinions on the bike, but flamewar is not a constructive way of discussion.
I'm trying to calm this whole thing down, so I won't comment on most of your post.(and yes, your reply did sound automatic and you quoted just a part of my post above disregarding the rest).

Um, glance back to the second page of this thread, at the very top you may notice jonnythan listed a number of starter bikes. Some are probably safer than others. Even then, some of those bikes may be a better choice personally for you because the ergonomics feel a little different for every bike,- cruisers or sport, and everything in-between. What I, and I'm sure many other members don't understand about wastes of space threads like this one, is the idea that someone feels the need to ask a random e-stranger about a particular bike that's most suitable for their purposes. Perhaps if you did some online research for yourself, maybe read a couple books (there are some really interesting reads published out there), and then, just maybe you could try visiting a dealership or call a few private sellers and actually sit on a few bikes to gain a better idea of what's currently offered. I think your first purchase of the CB750 was a smart enough one because I started on an '83 CB650 last summer and experienced no problem with the power output, weight, handling, braking system, or it's ergonomics. The Honda inline-4 motor is rock solid and will last a long time if you maintain it. You seem like a bright enough guy that you will learn more about the moto-world and everything involved the further along you ride, so what are you so worried and getting upset about? Just ride, son. You're wasting all of your time arguing with some characters on a motorcycle forum, ahem, an argument you probably will not win, nor benefit from. And this is while you could be out cruising on your new wheels.

This is the internet dude. Shane-o is not flaming you. He's F*cking with your skull, and you're assuring him, and everyone else of that very fact.

[shane-o]

Well, I'm glad you showed me you are an adult.

Even better- he's an aussie

So true.

Im watching you 2,

and I like what I see

[shane-o]

You ask for an opinion on this forum and people give it to you. You don't like it, and take out your frustrations here? Look in the mirror for who needs the attitude adjustment. You don't mind disagreement provided it jives with what you're thinking. That's not how it works.

I was hoping to gather somewhat of a list of alternative learner bikes for future references for other people as well. And to bring the issue of lack of beginner bikes up too, it comes up, it hasn't only been a problem for me alone.
And I was expecting negative opinions on the bike, but flamewar is not a constructive way of discussion.
I'm trying to calm this whole thing down, so I won't comment on most of your post.(and yes, your reply did sound automatic and you quoted just a part of my post above disregarding the rest).

Um, glance back to the second page of this thread, at the very top you may notice jonnythan listed a number of starter bikes. Some are probably safer than others. Even then, some of those bikes may be a better choice personally for you because the ergonomics feel a little different for every bike,- cruisers or sport, and everything in-between. What I, and I'm sure many other members don't understand about wastes of space threads like this one, is the idea that someone feels the need to ask a random e-stranger about a particular bike that's most suitable for their purposes. Perhaps if you did some online research for yourself, maybe read a couple books (there are some really interesting reads published out there), and then, just maybe you could try visiting a dealership or call a few private sellers and actually sit on a few bikes to gain a better idea of what's currently offered. I think your first purchase of the CB750 was a smart enough one because I started on an '83 CB650 last summer and experienced no problem with the power output, weight, handling, braking system, or it's ergonomics. The Honda inline-4 motor is rock solid and will last a long time if you maintain it. You seem like a bright enough guy that you will learn more about the moto-world and everything involved the further along you ride, so what are you so worried and getting upset about? Just ride, son. You're wasting all of your time arguing with some characters on a motorcycle forum, ahem, an argument you probably will not win, nor benefit from. And this is while you could be out cruising on your new wheels.

This is the internet dude. Shane-o is not flaming you. He's F*cking with your skull, and you're assuring him, and everyone else of that very fact.

Now Batman,


Truer, more honest words you are never going to get on this topic more than what Mathew has written above. Its right on the money and I tip my hat to him for taking the time to spell it out for you.

Peace and good luck