Excellent figure 8

[Johnj]

Do you practice getting out of bed? I did a Google search and there are hundreds of articles on the subject. I think I'll spend an hour or so practicing this morning.

[beginner]

Do you practice getting out of bed?

If getting out of bed were as hazardous as riding a motorcycle I'd put the matress on the floor.

[Johnj]

So...dieing isn't hazardous enough.

[beginner]

So another guideline to give new riders. Don't operate at a speed higher than you are certain you can do emergency braking in a panic. There are probably a lot of riders who would need to slow down to follow that.

I'm sure motorcycle instructors give that advice already.

On another topic, I wrote to dunlop looking for tire advice. I switched from their OEM off road knobbies to Kenda 270 dual sport tires. I like the lower rolling resistance of the Kendas a lot but they have LESS traction on pavement than the Dulop knobbies, which was a surprise. I'm wondering if I'd get better grip and wear on pavement with trials tires. I'm never going faster than 30 mph so I have no speed issues. I have never been able to find the DOT road legal specfication to see what compromises are made for street driving.

[MrShake]

To me it seems like both new and experienced riders in addition to your evil instructors are trying to prevent others from falling into the same pit you've dug yourself into all over the internet.

Talking about practice is worthwhile. Motorcycle instructors should not discourage it.

When have you ever seen a motorcycle instructor discourage practice? You've never even taken a course!

[MrShake]

So another guideline to give new riders. Don't operate at a speed higher than you are certain you can do emergency braking in a panic. There are probably a lot of riders who would need to slow down to follow that.

I'm sure motorcycle instructors give that advice already.

On another topic, I wrote to dunlop looking for tire advice. I switched from their OEM off road knobbies to Kenda 270 dual sport tires. I like the lower rolling resistance of the Kendas a lot but they have LESS traction on pavement than the Dulop knobbies, which was a surprise. I'm wondering if I'd get better grip and wear on pavement with trials tires. I'm never going faster than 30 mph so I have no speed issues. I have never been able to find the DOT road legal specfication to see what compromises are made for street driving.

If your never going about 30mph, when are you dealing with traction issues?

[storysunfolding]

Talking about practice is worthwhile. Motorcycle instructors should not discourage it.

We don't. However, you post as an expert and from your video's and your posts your skills are so inherently flawed that we don't want other people dying from trying your idiocy

[beginner]

To me it seems like both new and experienced riders in addition to your evil instructors are trying to prevent others from falling into the same pit you've dug yourself into all over the internet.

Talking about practice is worthwhile. Motorcycle instructors should not discourage it.

When have you ever seen a motorcycle instructor discourage practice? You've never even taken a course!

I was referring to unfoldings comment about online discussion of practice. Motorcycle instructors should encourage discussion of practice in forums like this instead of being hard on people who try.

If your never going about 30mph, when are you dealing with traction issues?

That's a curious quesion. There are always traction issues with a motorcycle. I need descent traction off road, better traction and lower rolling resistance on pavement. And as much rubber on the edges of the front tire as possible so it lasts a while in the parking lot. Based on experience last summer I'll be replacing the front every 6 weeks if I don't find a better solution.

I've read some forum discussion of trials tires now. The consensus seems to be there are some things they are not good for, like harsh thrashing and big jumps. But they get good reviews for dual sport use otherwise. It seems they are sticky on hard surfaces and excellent off road in terrain like mine. With their tread pattern they should have reletively low rolling resistance when there is enough air in them and there is lots of rubber to wear away on the outside edges in front. It's interesting I've seen no discussion of rolling resistance in motorcycle tires even thought that can vary a lot. I asked Dunlop if their trials tire might be an option. I'm waiting for a reply.

[storysunfolding]

Don't operate at a speed higher than you are certain you can do emergency braking in a panic.

Again- we teach the skills to provide precise controlled motions without panicking. If you panic, just kiss your life goodbye.

[storysunfolding]

I was referring to unfoldings comment about online discussion of practice. Motorcycle instructors should encourage discussion of practice in forums like this instead of being hard on people who try.

Beginner, you may misunderstand me and the intentions I have here. If y flip through my posts in this forum and others I guarantee you find plenty of suggestions that people practice. I'm sure a few people here can vouch that they've seen it.

However, I also encourage students to practice worthwhile exercises and correct technique. At the same time I discourage people wasting their time, becoming complacent, practicing with inherently flawed technique or having deluded fantasies of slipping the rear tire at 10 mph.

The only at speed practice you claim to do is swerving and quick stops on the road. You spend far too much time on a skills such as figure eights and ignore more important skills such as cornering.

You need to sit back and ask yourself "Why is everyone that I'm talking to telling me that I'm wrong?" The right answer isn't that the entire communities at BARF, TMW, Beginnerbikers in addition to Keith Code are wrong