Superfly3176 wrote:
Scooters aren't motorcycles, there's a distinctive difference in how they operate, how you sit on them etc. They're only motorcycles in the sense that they have 2 wheels. VRODs aren't real harley davidsons, because well, harley davidsons make 45 degree aircooled vtwins. The Vrod doesn't fit in that category.
Cars and trucks aren't that close either. They're both motor vehicles, and sure they share quite a bit in common. But nobody is mistaking a car for a truck. A truck normally sits higher, has a bed, is and is built for a number of things, hauling/towing, offroading etc. I don't see many cars hauling a load of stone, or pulling a fullsize camper, or offroading. But I see trucks doing it all the time.
It's funny you'd mention a sportster not being a real harley davidson. Last time I checked it had a 45 degree aircooled vtwin. Not to mention it's harley davidson's longest running line of motorcycles dating back to 1957. This is longer running than the current softail (1984), Dyna (1991), Touring (1980).
If you want to get technical you're entering my realm now. Technically a scooter IS a motorcycle. A motorcycle is a vehicle with two (or three depending on the state/country) wheels that is driven forward by a motor or engine of some sort. Blurring the line would be a moped with pedals. So scooters ARE motorcycles.
The VRod is a Harley Davidson. It is not a TRADITIONAL Harley Davidson, but it is one nonetheless. As for those that argue it's a Porsche engine in there, noooo. Porsche helped design the motor, but Kawasaki and Yamaha have helped with the Evo and the Twin Cam engines respectively. Does that make them non-Harleys as well? Don't think so.
I see plenty of trucks (including mine) that see use as a daily driver, commuter, people carrier, and just happen to have the extra capability of carrying/towing a load. Depending on whether you get a 4x4 or not, some of the 2 wheel drive trucks sit lower than some cars I've seen stock for stock.
He's not saying Sporties aren't real HDs, he's saying a lot of HD fans say they're not real HDs, mainly because they don't come in the 96 CI displacement like the Twin Cam does.