Speeding tickets on a motorcycle?

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ronboskz650sr · Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:56 am

Motorcycles are plenty big to bounce a microwave back...unless you're imbedded in faster traffic, you are a plenty big target. On Mythbusters, they used a calibrated police radar gun to clock R/C model cars for debunking ALL of the radar evasion myths...except the coat of wax from Sev, although it seems unlikely, too (hence his disclaimer

) R/C cars are pretty small! My old roomate after college used to think his corvette was radar-proof because it was "made of fiberglass." Same thinking alot of sportbike riders have, forgetting about the big chunk of reflective aluminum and steel behind the radar-transparent surface. Microwaves, are really little...don't forget.

And my limited understanding of lasers is that they are point and shoot..at a visible target, and reflection back to the gun only needs to be visible enough for the gun to see it and read the code, meaning if the gun can see you, it can see the dot, too?...isn't the speed computed from the time of trigger pull to the time the beam hits the vehicle (minus the speed of light for the gun to see it, of course?) If the wax was that refractive, the bike wouldn't look very good in the parking lot, and isn't that what wax is really for?

Coffee357 · Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:37 am

I'm gonna bow out on an "agree to disagree" basis over this police thing. Yall ride safe, now, ya hear!!

flynrider · Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:41 pm

ronboskz650sr wrote: My old roomate after college used to think his corvette was radar-proof because it was "made of fiberglass." Same thinking alot of sportbike riders have, forgetting about the big chunk of reflective aluminum and steel behind the radar-transparent surface. Microwaves, are really little...don't forget.

Whenever I hear that gem, I like to point out that, for decades, the major leagues have been using police radar guns to clock non-metallic baseballs from the pitcher's mound to home plate. Metal gives a better return, but it's not required.

ronboskz650sr · Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:46 pm

excellent point...Doppler Weather radar is another good example..very few cars in the thunderclouds.

MEB · #35 Unread post by **MEB** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:51 pm

You know you don't have to talk to a cop when he pulls you over. Or answer any of his questions like - Why do you think I pulled you over? Do you have anything to hide? ect. You can reply, excuse me officer, how may I help you? or Say are you detaining us officer or are we free to go? (then he usually gives you a ticket unless he has a real reason to detain you if he dosn't it's against the law)

In our state some of us are legally required to verbally engage the officer. We are required to say something to the effect of "I am permitted to carry and I AM carrying... how would you like me to proceed?"

Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:34 am

MEB wrote:
You know you don't have to talk to a cop when he pulls you over. Or answer any of his questions like - Why do you think I pulled you over? Do you have anything to hide? ect. You can reply, excuse me officer, how may I help you? or Say are you detaining us officer or are we free to go? (then he usually gives you a ticket unless he has a real reason to detain you if he dosn't it's against the law)

In our state some of us are legally required to verbally engage the officer. We are required to say something to the effect of "I am permitted to carry and I AM carrying... how would you like me to proceed?"

Every time I've heard someone say that, the officer pulls his gun, asks everyone to slowly put their hands on thier heads, and calls backup.

Then when the second cop shows up, he holds his riot gun on us, then they ask the person who said that to slowly show them the gun.

It's always been amusing

TeeMan · #37 Unread post by **TeeMan** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:30 am

I have no doubt that you can hit a motorcycle with radar or laser. My question was arounding having larger (read ANY) vehicles around you. If I'm passing a big rig and they clock me, are they getting me or the semi?

#38 Unread post by **Sev** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:25 pm

Typically the camera is trained on the horizon, and done in such a way as to allow them to take a picture of all the lanes proceding away from them. What I am unsure of is how they aim the camera at the correct vehicle for the speed...

Shenanigans7 · Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:56 pm

i actually have a "reflective" kind of plate covering that goes over my back plate on my truck. in scottsdale, they use cameras a lot more than physical cops, and as i pass those cameras these plates are supposed to reflect, or scramble or something. not sure, but i have yet to get a ticket.

#40 Unread post by **Sev** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:18 pm

Those are remarkably illegal around here and it's a pretty big fine if/when you get pulled over with one of those.

I've seen other things like this, one is a clear sheet of that triangle ridged stuff that is used to make those changing pictures, you know view it from two different angles and you see two different pictures, so it could only be seen from directly behind.

There's a yellowish spray on laquer that will reflect ALL light from the flash so all they see is white.

At the last toy run I was on there was a guy with a license plate that only said 669. It was cutdown from an offical plate and is probably reversable, it had no other markings on it.

Obviously the police will force you to remove any of this stuff when you get pulled over.